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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Russell King - ARM Linux" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"Trond Myklebust" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Marc Kleine-Budde" <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Marc Kleine-Budde" <m.kleine-budde@pengutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Parisc List" <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8]
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 20:35:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1294259717.16957.27.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik214sj_wBJXhJMLRie34moG7ET1Xg62oQXsgxb@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 11:49 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 2011/1/5 James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>:
> >>
> >> No, we really can't do that. Most of the time, the kmap() is the only
> >> way we access the page anyway, so flushing things would just be
> >> stupid. Why waste time and energy on doing something pointless?
> >
> > It's hardly pointless.  The kmap sets up an inequivalent alias in the
> > cache.
> 
> NO IT DOES NOT.

Well, it does ... but not in this case because the page is freshly
allocated (which I missed before) so it has no use cache colour yet.

James

> Stop arguing, when you are so wrong.
> 
> kmap() does not create any aliases. For low-memory, it just returns
> the physical address. No alias. And for high memory, there is no
> equivalent low memory address to alias _with_.
> 
> Now, when you actually mix multiple kmap's and you have a virtually
> based cache, then the kmap's obviously need to flush that particular
> page when switching between each other. But that has nothing to do
> with the actual page being kmap'ed, it's entirely an internal issue
> about the particular virtual memory area being re-used. And ARM (and
> any other virtually based CPU) already does that in __kunmap_atomic().
> 
> But notice the case of the low-mem. And understand that you are WRONG
> about the "inequivalent alias" thing.
> 
> So I repeat: this has absolutely *NOTHING* to do with kmap(). Stop blathering.
> 
> It's _purely_ an issue of vm_map_ram(). Nothing else.
> 
>                           Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-05 20:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-05 19:05 still nfs problems [Was: Linux 2.6.37-rc8] James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTi=VZUxNFd7n-qwf5aiOeK5rkk8qBmo+kOpgg7up-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 19:36     ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:36       ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 19:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 20:35         ` James Bottomley [this message]
     [not found]       ` <1294256169.16957.18.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 20:00         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 20:00           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 20:33           ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 20:33             ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 20:48             ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTimzzBsdtWcZtP5E_CH1hUZugGMoaHOiMdQJf764-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 21:04                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:04                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:08                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 21:08                     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTi=EXXBTW7oWHq3D+PHsx=thF1CpkRjn0ax2p5rm-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 21:16                       ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 21:16                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                         ` <1294262208.2952.4.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 21:30                           ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 21:30                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 23:06                             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 23:06                               ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-05 23:28                               ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:40                                 ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:47                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-06 17:51                                     ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 17:55                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-06 17:55                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-07 18:53                                       ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                         ` <1294426405.2929.23.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-07 19:02                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-07 19:02                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-07 19:11                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-01-07 19:11                                               ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                               ` <1294427467.4895.66.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-08 16:49                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 16:49                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 23:15                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-08 23:15                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                     ` <1294528551.4181.19.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 10:50                                                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 10:50                                                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-10 16:25                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                           ` <1294676734.3349.10.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 17:08                                                             ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:08                                                               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:20                                                               ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1294680035.3349.19.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 17:26                                                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 17:26                                                                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 19:25                                                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20110110192552.GG24920-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-10 19:29                                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 19:29                                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 19:31                                                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-01-10 19:34                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-10 19:34                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-10 20:15                                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-10 12:44                                                       ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-10 12:44                                                         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-01-07 19:13                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2011-01-07 19:05                                         ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                   ` <1294335614.22825.154.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-06 18:05                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 18:05                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-06 18:14                                       ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 18:14                                         ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                         ` <1294337670.22825.199.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-06 18:25                                           ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 18:25                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 21:07                                             ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 21:07                                               ` James Bottomley
2011-01-06 20:19                                   ` John Stoffel
2011-01-06 20:19                                     ` John Stoffel
2011-01-05 23:28                               ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-05 23:28                                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                                 ` <AANLkTi=SjMinMp+m726GS1iehj6cQgNy1RqSoUqKhjtv-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-05 23:59                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 23:59                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 21:16               ` James Bottomley
2011-01-05 21:16                 ` James Bottomley

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