From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ia64 broken by transparent huge pages - other arches too?
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:47:28 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1295110048.5973.36.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110115155925.GT9506@random.random>
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 16:59 +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 06:21:36PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > This is insane. Having such a massively invasive change to the whole mm,
> > barely tested on most architecture, and last I heard still generally
> > controversial being merged like that without even some integration
> > testing via -next makes no sense.
>
> This is 99% a noop for all archs but x86.. Really if you worry about
> the testing you should worry about x86 only! Only x86 is affected by
> the brainer part of the code, and only if TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE=y
> (which is set to N by default).
>
> Not x86 archs can't possibly have a regression because of this. The
> reason there's this compile trouble is that I cleaned up some bad code
> in include/asm-generic/pgtable.h while adding the pmd methods, and I
> tried to keep everything as a static inline as requested by Mel for
> better gcc compile time validation than what the preprocessor can
> do. Otherwise if it was a macro I may not have had to return
> anything and I could just BUG() in this pmd method that requires the
> __pmd macro to be implemented by all archs (I think it's better off if
> __pmd is available considering __pte seems already available).
>
> The below can't introduce regressions, if it builds it'll work, so the
> testing on -next for the other archs isn't really necessary at all. I
> don't think you can worry about a one liner change to make ia64 build,
> when the brainer part of the code is a noop for the other archs
> (including x86 when the config option is off).
Andrea, what you say above isn't true, you're not thinking broadly
enough: the kernel is a complex set of code interactions. For instance,
you caused this build break on parisc (which is a regression even though
parisc has no transparent huge pages at all):
http://marc.info/?l=linux-arch&m=129504371532124
That was just from a simple code rearrangement (independent of any of
the config options).
One of the points of getting stuff through linux-next is that all of
these problems get sorted out long before the code hits mainline. This
happens because linux-next gets a wide range of config randomisation
testing plus quite a few different architecture builds and runs.
The problem is very often not in the actual code, but in the side
effects the code causes. This is what linux-next integration helps
mitigate. So, please use it next time. Just testing on x86 in your own
configuration isn't sufficient to pick up the problems.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-15 16:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-14 17:50 ia64 broken by transparent huge pages - other arches too? Luck, Tony
2011-01-14 17:50 ` Luck, Tony
2011-01-14 18:30 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-14 18:50 ` Tony Luck
2011-01-14 19:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-15 7:21 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-15 15:59 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-15 16:47 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2011-01-15 17:23 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2011-01-15 19:02 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-01-15 21:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-16 21:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-01-16 21:10 ` Andrew Morton
2011-01-16 22:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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