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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Software prefetching considered harmful
Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 19:13:28 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1305882808.7481.163.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110520083442.GB22802@elte.hu>


> Yeah, over the past 10 years we have been suffering from an increasing level of 
> blindness in the area of x86 performance analysis. Our old tools gradually 
> deteriorated, the hardware got smarter and more parallel and it was harder and 
> harder to see what happens. The 32-bit/64-bit split did not help us stay 
> focused either. I think i warned about this 4-5 years ago at a KS.
> 
> This has improved meanwhile, we now have better tools (*wink* :) and have a 
> good performance monitoring model (*wink* :) and people are again looking at 
> the fine details and i think we now have a good chance to speed up the kernel 
> again and keep it fast - and not just on PowerPC which has its envied Olympus 
> of performance gods! :-)

Hehe, right. I agree completely.

> Watching out for performance is a fundamentally critical mass thing: for a long 
> time it seems a Sisyphean task with little progress, then it just happens very 
> quickly.

I used to pay a lot more attention to performance myself than I do
nowadays, and that is definitely not a good thing. Mostly blame being
swamped with other things but still something I need to remedy in the
near future.

Cheers,
Ben.

      reply	other threads:[~2011-05-20  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-19 17:12 Software prefetching considered harmful Linus Torvalds
2011-05-19 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-19 19:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-21  3:37     ` Michael Cree
2011-05-21  4:18       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-21 10:42         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-19 19:32   ` David Miller
2011-05-19 19:38     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-05-19 19:47       ` David Miller
2011-05-19 23:34         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-20 16:01           ` Catalin Marinas
2011-05-20  1:42   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-05-20  8:34     ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-20  9:13       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]

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