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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Radoslaw Burny <rburny@google.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] locking: Apply contention tracepoints in the slow path
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 12:43:05 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1325267700.157591.1647535385417.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220317121055.33812ac1@gandalf.local.home>

----- On Mar 17, 2022, at 12:10 PM, rostedt rostedt@goodmis.org wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 09:45:28 -0400 (EDT)
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> 
>> > *sem, bool reader)
>> > 		schedule();
>> > 	}
>> > 	__set_current_state(TASK_RUNNING);
>> > +	trace_contention_end(sem, 0);
>> 
>> So for the reader-write locks, and percpu rwlocks, the "trace contention end"
>> will always
>> have ret=0. Likewise for qspinlock, qrwlock, and rtlock. It seems to be a waste
>> of trace
>> buffer space to always have space for a return value that is always 0.
>> 
>> Sorry if I missed prior dicussions of that topic, but why introduce this single
>> "trace contention begin/end" muxer tracepoint with flags rather than
>> per-locking-type
>> tracepoint ? The per-locking-type tracepoint could be tuned to only have the
>> fields
>> that are needed for each locking type.
> 
> per-locking-type tracepoint will also add a bigger footprint.

If you are talking about code and data size footprint in the kernel, yes, we agree
there.

> 
> One extra byte is not an issue.

The implementation uses a 32-bit integer.

But given that this only traces contention, it's probably not as important to
shrink the event size as if it would be for tracing every uncontended lock/unlock.

> This is just the tracepoints. You can still
> attach your own specific LTTng trace events that ignores the zero
> parameter, and can multiplex into specific types of trace events on your
> end.

Indeed, I could, as I do for system call entry/exit tracing. But I suspect it would
not be worth it for contended locks, because I don't expect those events to be frequent
enough in the trace to justify the added code/data footprint, as you pointed out.

> 
> I prefer the current approach as it keeps the tracing footprint down.

Likewise. I just wanted to make sure this was done knowing the trace buffer vs kernel
code/data overhead trade-off.

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> -- Steve

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-17 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-16 22:45 [PATCH 0/2] locking: Add new lock contention tracepoints (v3) Namhyung Kim
2022-03-16 22:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] locking: Add lock contention tracepoints Namhyung Kim
2022-03-17  2:31   ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-17 13:32   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-03-17 16:07     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-17 16:37       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-03-18 20:58         ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-16 22:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] locking: Apply contention tracepoints in the slow path Namhyung Kim
2022-03-17 13:45   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-03-17 16:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-17 16:43       ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2022-03-18 21:34     ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-17 18:19   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-03-18 21:43     ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-18 12:55   ` Boqun Feng
2022-03-18 13:24     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-03-18 13:28       ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-03-18 16:43     ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-18 21:55       ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-18 22:07         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-19  0:11           ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-22  5:31             ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-22 12:59               ` Steven Rostedt
2022-03-22 16:39                 ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-17 17:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] locking: Add new lock contention tracepoints (v3) Hyeonggon Yoo
2022-03-18 21:12   ` Namhyung Kim
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-03-22 18:57 [PATCH 0/2] locking: Add new lock contention tracepoints (v4) Namhyung Kim
2022-03-22 18:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] locking: Apply contention tracepoints in the slow path Namhyung Kim
2022-03-28 11:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-28 17:41     ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-28 11:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-28 17:48     ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-30 11:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-30 19:03         ` Namhyung Kim
2022-03-31 11:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-04-01  6:26             ` Namhyung Kim
2022-04-01  9:25               ` Peter Zijlstra

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