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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: "Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
Cc: Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	target-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	Parisc List <linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scatterlist: enable sg chaining for all architectures
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 07:55:07 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1430405707.2167.13.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1430380782.24121.99.camel@haakon3.risingtidesystems.com>

On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 00:59 -0700, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 19:15 -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 09:34 +0900, Akinobu Mita wrote:
> > > 2015-04-29 7:16 GMT+09:00 James Bottomley
> > > <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>:
> > > > On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 14:27 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 23:56:16 +0900 Akinobu Mita <akinobu.mita@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Some architectures enable sg chaining option while others do not.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The requirement to enable sg chaining is that pages must be aligned
> > > >> > at a 32-bit boundary in order to overload the LSB of the pointer.
> > > >> > Regardless of whether ARCH_HAS_SG_CHAIN is defined or not, the above
> > > >> > requirement is always chacked by BUG_ON() in sg_assign_page.  So
> > > >> > all architectures can enable sg chaining.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > As you can see from the changes in drivers/target/target_core_rd.c,
> > > >> > enabling SG chaining for all architectures allows us to allocate
> > > >> > discontiguous scatterlist tables which can be traversed throughout
> > > >> > by sg_next() without a special handling for some architectures.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks, I'll grab this.  If anyone has concerns, speak now or hold both
> > > >> pieces!
> > > >
> > > > It breaks a host of architectures doesn't it?  I can specifically speak
> > > > for PARISC:  The problem is the way our iommus are consuming
> > > > scatterlists.  They're assuming we can dereference the scatterlist as an
> > > > array (like this code in ccio-dma.c):
> > > >
> > > > static int
> > > > ccio_map_sg(struct device *dev, struct scatterlist *sglist, int nents,
> > > >             enum dma_data_direction direction)
> > > > [...]
> > > >         for(i = 0; i < nents; i++)
> > > >                 prev_len += sglist[i].length;
> > > >
> > > > If you turn on sg chaining on our architecture, we'll run off the end of
> > > > that array dereference and crash.
> > > >
> > > > This can all be fixed by making our architecture dma mapping code use
> > > > iterators instead of array lists, but that needs more code than this
> > > > patch provides.  I assume there are similar issues on a lot of other
> > > > architectures, so before you can contemplate a patch like this, surely
> > > > all the architecture consumers have to be converted to iterator instead
> > > > of array format?
> > > >
> > > > The first place to start would be a survey of who's still using the
> > > > array format.
> > > 
> > > Agreed.  I could find similar issues in arch/m68k/kernel/dma.c.
> > > (git grep '[^a-z]sg++' shows that there are a lot of similar issues)
> > 
> > OK, so the original idea of the chained SG lists was that most of the
> > older architectures have fixed length lists for their IOMMUs, or simply
> > wouldn't see a benefit with IO lengths > 0.5MB (which was the default
> > before chaining) so there wasn't much point converting them to chaining
> > if they wouldn't see any benefit from it.
> > 
> > ARCH_HAS_SG_CHAIN is supposed to be completely transparent to all driver
> > side consumers, so there was never thought to be much point removing it.
> > It looks like there's some sort of cockup going on in the target driver
> > but otherwise, your removal patch is pretty empty, confirming this.
> > 
> > Perhaps the best thing to do is just fix target and call it quits?
> > 
> 
> So the ARCH_HAS_SG_CHAIN usage in target_core_rd.c was recently added so
> target DIF emulation could use standard SGL iterators and correctly
> handle boundaries across T10-PI metadata SGL tables in the ramdisk
> backend.
>
> The SGLs in question are never actually mapped to a HW IOMMU, and
> Akinobu's current changes in mainline do support both arch cases and
> make common sbc_dif_copy_prot() code a bit simpler too.
> 
> That said, I'd rather to keep the hack around for now so that both
> ARCH_HAS_SG_CHAIN types can still work, short of a full arch conversion
> of course..

It looks like you might not have needed the hack if you'd used the
existing sg chain allocators ....

James

      reply	other threads:[~2015-04-30 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-25 14:56 [PATCH] scatterlist: enable sg chaining for all architectures Akinobu Mita
2015-04-25 14:56 ` Akinobu Mita
2015-04-28 21:27 ` Andrew Morton
2015-04-28 22:16   ` James Bottomley
2015-04-29  0:34     ` Akinobu Mita
2015-04-29  0:34       ` Akinobu Mita
2015-04-29  2:15       ` James Bottomley
2015-04-29  7:31         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-04-29  7:31           ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-04-30  7:59         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2015-04-30 14:55           ` James Bottomley [this message]

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