From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v3 06/13] fork: Add generic vmalloced stack support
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:32:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1466533948.2756.56.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJjihEU0HkSTWJymLZ5y=J03bkBHNgVf9QOSgWz6bf-SQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 10:13 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net
> > wrote:
> >
> > I'm tempted to explicitly disallow VM_NO_GUARD in the vmalloc
> > range.
> > It has no in-tree users for non-fixed addresses right now.
> What about the lack of pre-range guard page? That seems like a
> critical feature for this. :)
If VM_NO_GUARD is disallowed, and every vmalloc area has
a guard area behind it, then every subsequent vmalloc area
will have a guard page ahead of it.
I think disallowing VM_NO_GUARD will be all that is required.
The only thing we may want to verify on the architectures that
we care about is that there is nothing mapped immediately before
the start of the vmalloc range, otherwise the first vmalloced
area will not have a guard page below it.
I suspect all the 64 bit architectures are fine in that regard,
with enormous gaps between kernel memory ranges.
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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH v3 06/13] fork: Add generic vmalloced stack support
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:32:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1466533948.2756.56.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20160621183228.Va1fmqkrM_aSGccC1Zoz4dJgv6nkKh-5S1RWUWDP1vw@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5jJjihEU0HkSTWJymLZ5y=J03bkBHNgVf9QOSgWz6bf-SQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2016-06-21 at 10:13 -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net
> > wrote:
> >
> > I'm tempted to explicitly disallow VM_NO_GUARD in the vmalloc
> > range.
> > It has no in-tree users for non-fixed addresses right now.
> What about the lack of pre-range guard page? That seems like a
> critical feature for this. :)
If VM_NO_GUARD is disallowed, and every vmalloc area has
a guard area behind it, then every subsequent vmalloc area
will have a guard page ahead of it.
I think disallowing VM_NO_GUARD will be all that is required.
The only thing we may want to verify on the architectures that
we care about is that there is nothing mapped immediately before
the start of the vmalloc range, otherwise the first vmalloced
area will not have a guard page below it.
I suspect all the 64 bit architectures are fine in that regard,
with enormous gaps between kernel memory ranges.
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Thread overview: 150+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-20 23:43 [PATCH v3 00/13] Virtually mapped stacks with guard pages (x86, core) Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] x86/mm/hotplug: Don't remove PGD entries in remove_pagetable() Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] x86/cpa: In populate_pgd, don't set the pgd entry until it's populated Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] x86/mm: Remove kernel_unmap_pages_in_pgd() and efi_cleanup_page_tables() Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 9:53 ` Matt Fleming
2016-06-21 9:53 ` Matt Fleming
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] mm: Track NR_KERNEL_STACK in KiB instead of number of stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 9:46 ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-21 9:46 ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-22 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-22 7:35 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] mm: Fix memcg stack accounting for sub-page stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 9:54 ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-21 9:54 ` Vladimir Davydov
2016-06-22 7:38 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-22 7:38 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] fork: Add generic vmalloced stack support Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 7:30 ` Jann Horn
2016-06-21 16:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 16:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:13 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 17:13 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 17:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 18:32 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2016-06-21 18:32 ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 19:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21 19:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:43 ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-07-11 17:00 ` Andrey Ryabinin
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] x86/die: Don't try to recover from an OOPS on a non-default stack Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] x86/dumpstack: When OOPSing, rewind the stack before do_exit Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] x86/dumpstack: When dumping stack bytes due to OOPS, start with regs->sp Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] x86/dumpstack: Try harder to get a call trace on stack overflow Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] x86/dumpstack/64: Handle faults when printing the "Stack:" part of an OOPS Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] x86/mm/64: Enable vmapped stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] x86/mm: Improve stack-overflow #PF handling Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 23:43 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 4:01 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] Virtually mapped stacks with guard pages (x86, core) Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21 4:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21 16:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 16:45 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21 17:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-21 17:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:27 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 18:12 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 18:12 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 18:19 ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 18:19 ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-06-23 1:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 6:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 6:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 14:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 16:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 17:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 17:10 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-09-06 16:19 ` Jann Horn
2016-09-06 16:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-09-06 16:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 17:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 18:00 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 18:00 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-23 18:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 18:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 19:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 19:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 18:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 18:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 19:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 19:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 6:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 12:25 ` Brian Gerst
2016-06-24 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 17:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 17:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 18:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 18:36 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 20:25 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-24 20:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-24 20:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-24 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 20:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-24 21:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-24 21:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-25 2:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-25 23:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-25 23:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-25 23:30 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-26 1:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 18:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-23 18:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-24 14:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 14:05 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 15:06 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 15:06 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-24 20:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-27 10:36 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-23 19:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 19:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-06-23 19:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-23 19:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-21 9:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21 9:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21 17:16 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 17:16 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 18:02 ` Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 18:02 ` [kernel-hardening] " Rik van Riel
2016-06-21 18:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 18:05 ` [kernel-hardening] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-06-21 19:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 19:47 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 20:18 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 20:18 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-21 19:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
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