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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/9] mm/memory: optimize unmap/zap with PTE-mapped THP
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 10:26:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1fd26a83-8e6f-4b96-9d27-dd46de9488cc@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ee94b8ca-9723-44c0-aa17-75c9678015c6@redhat.com>

On 31/01/2024 10:16, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 31.01.24 03:20, Yin Fengwei wrote:
>> On 1/29/24 22:32, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>> This series is based on [1] and must be applied on top of it.
>>> Similar to what we did with fork(), let's implement PTE batching
>>> during unmap/zap when processing PTE-mapped THPs.
>>>
>>> We collect consecutive PTEs that map consecutive pages of the same large
>>> folio, making sure that the other PTE bits are compatible, and (a) adjust
>>> the refcount only once per batch, (b) call rmap handling functions only
>>> once per batch, (c) perform batch PTE setting/updates and (d) perform TLB
>>> entry removal once per batch.
>>>
>>> Ryan was previously working on this in the context of cont-pte for
>>> arm64, int latest iteration [2] with a focus on arm6 with cont-pte only.
>>> This series implements the optimization for all architectures, independent
>>> of such PTE bits, teaches MMU gather/TLB code to be fully aware of such
>>> large-folio-pages batches as well, and amkes use of our new rmap batching
>>> function when removing the rmap.
>>>
>>> To achieve that, we have to enlighten MMU gather / page freeing code
>>> (i.e., everything that consumes encoded_page) to process unmapping
>>> of consecutive pages that all belong to the same large folio. I'm being
>>> very careful to not degrade order-0 performance, and it looks like I
>>> managed to achieve that.
>>
> 
> Let's CC Linus and Michal to make sure I'm not daydreaming.
> 
> Relevant patch:
>   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20240129143221.263763-8-david@redhat.com
> 
> Context: I'm adjusting MMU gather code to support batching of consecutive pages
> that belong to the same large folio, when unmapping/zapping PTEs.
> 
> For small folios, there is no (relevant) change.
> 
> Imagine we have a PTE-mapped THP (2M folio -> 512 pages) and zap all 512 PTEs:
> Instead of adding 512 individual encoded_page entries, we add a combined entry
> that expresses "page+nr_pages". That allows for "easily" adding various other
> per-folio batching (refcount, rmap, swap freeing).
> 
> The implication is, that we can now batch effective more pages with large
> folios, exceeding the old 10000 limit. The number of involved *folios* does not
> increase, though.
> 
>> One possible scenario:
>> If all the folio is 2M size folio, then one full batch could hold 510M memory.
>> Is it too much regarding one full batch before just can hold (2M - 4096 * 2)
>> memory?
> 
> Excellent point, I think there are three parts to it:
> 
> (1) Batch pages / folio fragments per batch page
> 
> Before this change (and with 4k folios) we have exactly one page (4k) per
> encoded_page entry in the batch. Now, we can have (with 2M folios), 512 pages
> for every two encoded_page entries (page+nr_pages) in a batch page. So an
> average ~256 pages per encoded_page entry.
> 
> So one batch page can now store in the worst case ~256 times the number of
> pages, but the number of folio fragments ("pages+nr_pages") would not increase.
> 
> The time it takes to perform the actual page freeing of a batch will not be 256
> times higher -- the time is expected to be much closer to the old time (i.e.,
> not freeing more folios).

IIRC there is an option to zero memory when it is freed back to the buddy? So
that could be a place where time is proportional to size rather than
proportional to folio count? But I think that option is intended for debug only?
So perhaps not a problem in practice?


> 
> (2) Delayed rmap handling
> 
> We limit batching early (see tlb_next_batch()) when we have delayed rmap
> pending. Reason being, that we don't want to check for many entries if they
> require delayed rmap handling, while still holding the page table lock (see
> tlb_flush_rmaps()), because we have to remove the rmap before dropping the PTL.
> 
> Note that we perform the check whether we need delayed rmap handling per
> page+nr_pages entry, not per page. So we won't perform more such checks.
> 
> Once we set tlb->delayed_rmap (because we add one entry that requires it), we
> already force a flush before dropping the PT lock. So once we get a single
> delayed rmap entry in there, we will not batch more than we could have in the
> same page table: so not more than 512 entries (x86-64) in the worst case. So it
> will still be bounded, and not significantly more than what we had before.
> 
> So regarding delayed rmap handling I think this should be fine.
> 
> (3) Total patched pages
> 
> MAX_GATHER_BATCH_COUNT effectively limits the number of pages we allocate (full
> batches), and thereby limits the number of pages we were able to batch.
> 
> The old limit was ~10000 pages, now we could batch ~5000 folio fragments
> (page+nr_pages), resulting int the "times 256" increase in the worst case on
> x86-64 as you point out.
> 
> This 10000 pages limit was introduced in 53a59fc67f97 ("mm: limit mmu_gather
> batching to fix soft lockups on !CONFIG_PREEMPT") where we wanted to handle
> soft-lockups.
> 
> As the number of effective folios we are freeing does not increase, I *think*
> this should be fine.
> 
> 
> If any of that is a problem, we would have to keep track of the total number of
> pages in our batch, and stop as soon as we hit our 10000 limit -- independent of
> page vs. folio fragment. Something I would like to avoid of possible.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-29 14:32 [PATCH v1 0/9] mm/memory: optimize unmap/zap with PTE-mapped THP David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] mm/memory: factor out zapping of present pte into zap_present_pte() David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  8:13   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-30  8:41     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  8:46       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-30  8:49         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 2/9] mm/memory: handle !page case in zap_present_pte() separately David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  8:20   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 3/9] mm/memory: further separate anon and pagecache folio handling in zap_present_pte() David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  8:31   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-30  8:37     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  8:45       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-30  8:47         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 4/9] mm/memory: factor out zapping folio pte into zap_present_folio_pte() David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  8:47   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 5/9] mm/mmu_gather: pass "delay_rmap" instead of encoded page to __tlb_remove_page_size() David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  8:41   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 6/9] mm/mmu_gather: define ENCODED_PAGE_FLAG_DELAY_RMAP David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  9:03   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 7/9] mm/mmu_gather: add __tlb_remove_folio_pages() David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  9:21   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-30  9:33     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 8/9] mm/mmu_gather: add tlb_remove_tlb_entries() David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  9:33   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-29 14:32 ` [PATCH v1 9/9] mm/memory: optimize unmap/zap with PTE-mapped THP David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  9:08   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-30  9:48   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-31 10:21     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-31 10:31       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-01-31 11:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-31  2:30   ` Yin Fengwei
2024-01-31 10:30     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-31 10:43       ` Yin, Fengwei
2024-01-31  2:20 ` [PATCH v1 0/9] " Yin Fengwei
2024-01-31 10:16   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-31 10:26     ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-01-31 14:08       ` Michal Hocko
2024-01-31 14:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-01-31 14:03     ` Michal Hocko
2024-01-31 10:43   ` David Hildenbrand

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