From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
Linux Arch list <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage?
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 12:05:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040322120537.A7371@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040322115807.GO3649@dualathlon.random>; from andrea@suse.de on Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 12:58:07PM +0100
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 12:58:07PM +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> The only reason I believe a paging mechanism would been nicer, is that
> it would avoid latencies in dma_mmap_coherent (not necessairly scheduler
> latencies, but you would pay all the cost of the pagetables immediatly
> during the mmap syscall, so if you've to map gigs of ram that would tend
> to hang the task doing the mmap a little bit, I found it nicer to use
> the paging for this so we also only allocate the memory for the
> pagetables that we need, but OTOH Linus's right that in most cases it
> doesn't worth a single branch in a fast path).
However, if you go on to read what Linus said later, he seems to be saying
that we can guarantee that dma_alloc_coherent() will be backed by memory
which has page structures associated with it. This means that we _can_
use the ->nopage function for the DMA coherent implementation after all.
However, it isn't useful for the PCI device-side buffer case, which would
need to be handled via remap_page_range().
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of: 2.6 PCMCIA - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/
2.6 Serial core
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2004-03-22 3:45 ` can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage? William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 4:41 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 4:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 4:56 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 5:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 11:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 12:05 ` Russell King [this message]
2004-03-22 12:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 9:30 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:04 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 15:15 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:27 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 21:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 22:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 22:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23 0:22 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 2:07 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 9:28 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 9:34 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 10:04 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 10:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 11:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23 11:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 11:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 12:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 12:40 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 15:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:50 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 22:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-25 20:25 ` Russell King
2004-03-28 10:17 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 12:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:19 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 23:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-23 2:26 ` James Bottomley
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