From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: clear_user_highpage()
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:53:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040811165307.46ff1eb6.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0408111635160.1839@ppc970.osdl.org>
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 16:46:10 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> It sucks because it does bad things to cache behaviour. Sure, you'll move
> the cost away from "clear_user_highpage", but the thing is, you will _not_
> move it into the idle time. What you will do is to move it into some
> random time _after_ the idle time, when the idle thing has crapped all
> over your caches.
It won't crap out the caches on sparc64 and any platform with cache-bypass-
on-miss stores. I believe ia64 and opteron have similar mechanisms.
If the store misses the L2 cache it goes straight out to main memory,
it doesn't allocate cache lines anywhere in such cases.
I think ppc/ppc64 has this too... no, sorry, it has the data-cache allocate
line and zero instruction, which isn't what you want here.
> The thing is, you make your cache footprint per CPU _much_ bigger, and you
> spread it out a lot over time too, so you make it even worse.
>
> The clearing will then be totally hidden in the profiles, because you will
> have turned a nice and well-behaved "this is there the time goes" profile
> into a mush of "we're taking cache misses at random times, and we don't
> know why".
Therefore, I do not believe any of this is applicable.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-11 23:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-11 23:15 clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-11 23:31 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-11 23:55 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 0:03 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 1:18 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12 2:11 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 9:23 ` clear_user_highpage() Martin Schwidefsky
2004-08-11 23:46 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-11 23:53 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2004-08-12 0:00 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 0:06 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 0:24 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 0:23 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 1:46 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 2:51 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-16 1:58 ` clear_user_highpage() Paul Mackerras
2004-08-12 2:08 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 2:45 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 9:09 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 19:50 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 20:00 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 20:30 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 21:34 ` clear_user_highpage() Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-13 8:16 ` clear_user_highpage() David Mosberger
2004-08-12 0:00 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 0:21 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 0:46 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12 1:01 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 2:18 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 2:43 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 4:19 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 4:46 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-15 6:22 ` clear_user_highpage() Andrew Morton
2004-08-15 6:38 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12 2:57 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 3:20 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-13 21:41 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-16 13:00 ` clear_user_highpage() David Mosberger
2004-08-22 19:51 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2005-09-17 19:01 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2005-09-17 19:16 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
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