From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
Cc: torvalds@osdl.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: clear_user_highpage()
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:30:24 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040812133024.36e5b7ee.davem@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040812220025.27cb260a.ak@suse.de>
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:00:25 +0200
Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de> wrote:
> Well, the writes are usually faster. While they don't use the
> cache they use special write combining buffers in the CPU
> that hold the data until it can blast out a full cache. Advantage
> is that it doesn't have to read anything first.
Sure. Sparc64 has this two, in fact is has a full 2K write
cache to absorb all of the cpu's write traffic.
> How effective this is depends on the CPU, in general newer
> x86s tend to have much larger WC buffers than the previous
> generation (e.g. Intel just enlarged them again in Prescott)
>
> Unlike all other stores on x86 they are also very lazily ordered
> and need explicit memory barriers.
The cache-bypassing 64-byte block stores behave this way
on sparc64.
> This still has the same problem: in the end the data
> is out of cache and when someone else needs it later they eat
> large penalties.
If it was in the cache to begin with, it will stay there.
This is the case the x86_64 bits lose for, they'll kick
the lines out.
If it is out of cache, no L2 cache lines are allocated. This
is how x86_64 will perform.
I think the "hit" case behavior difference could make a difference.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-08-12 20:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-08-11 23:15 clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-11 23:31 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-11 23:55 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 0:03 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 1:18 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12 2:11 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 9:23 ` clear_user_highpage() Martin Schwidefsky
2004-08-11 23:46 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-11 23:53 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 0:00 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 0:06 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 0:24 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 0:23 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 1:46 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 2:51 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-16 1:58 ` clear_user_highpage() Paul Mackerras
2004-08-12 2:08 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 2:45 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 9:09 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 19:50 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 20:00 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2004-08-12 20:30 ` David S. Miller [this message]
2004-08-12 21:34 ` clear_user_highpage() Matthew Wilcox
2004-08-13 8:16 ` clear_user_highpage() David Mosberger
2004-08-12 0:00 ` clear_user_highpage() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-08-12 0:21 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 0:46 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12 1:01 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 2:18 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 2:43 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 4:19 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2004-08-12 4:46 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-15 6:22 ` clear_user_highpage() Andrew Morton
2004-08-15 6:38 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-12 2:57 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-12 3:20 ` clear_user_highpage() William Lee Irwin III
2004-08-13 21:41 ` clear_user_highpage() David S. Miller
2004-08-16 13:00 ` clear_user_highpage() David Mosberger
2004-08-22 19:51 ` clear_user_highpage() Linus Torvalds
2005-09-17 19:01 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
2005-09-17 19:16 ` clear_user_highpage() Andi Kleen
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