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From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Linux Arch list <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: being more anal about iospace accesses..
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:20:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040915212056.C31396@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0409151205230.2333@ppc970.osdl.org>; from torvalds@osdl.org on Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 12:16:35PM -0700

On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 12:16:35PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2004, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> > Before people really start using this: what's the advantage of this scheme
> > compared to e.g. dev->busops->in8(), which some of us have been waiting for
> > since a long time?
> 
> Ehh, exactly why would you wait for that? 
> 
> What this new interface is doing is to slowlt move "ioremap()" users over
> to "pci_iomap()" (and by extension, maybe "sbus_ioremap()" etc if somebody
> ever starts doing that too), which allows you to do the bus- and device-
> specific translation just _once_.

What about (PCI!) bus types where you need to write one register with
the address and one with the data.  (I'm glaring at a certain embedded
CPU produced by a well known large chip manufacturer, which I think we
need to do these games to get byte accesses to work correctly.)

Sometimes unified accessor macros/functions just don't work.

> In other words, I hereby proclaim that anybody who does "dev->busops" is a 
> total idiot.

Good, I'll pass that comment on to other people and maybe we can force
certain sillycon manufacturers to stop selling broken hardware.  Or
maybe the universe will implode.  I think the latter is a more likely
scenario than the former.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 PCMCIA      - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/
                 2.6 Serial core

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-15 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-08 22:57 RFC: being more anal about iospace accesses Linus Torvalds
2004-09-08 23:07 ` David S. Miller
2004-09-08 23:25   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-09  1:19   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-09  4:36     ` David S. Miller
2004-09-09  5:56       ` Richard Henderson
2004-09-09  5:04     ` viro
2004-09-09  5:05       ` David S. Miller
2004-09-09  5:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-09  6:08         ` viro
2004-09-09  8:27   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-09  6:23 ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-09 13:14   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-11  6:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-11  6:42   ` Anton Blanchard
2004-09-11  7:26     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-11  7:29     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-11  7:23   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-11 14:42   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-15 15:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-15 19:02   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2004-09-15 19:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-15 19:40       ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-15 20:10         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-15 20:17           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 12:17           ` David Woodhouse
2004-09-16 13:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-15 20:20       ` Russell King [this message]
2004-09-15 20:34         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-15 20:51           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-15 22:38       ` James Bottomley
2004-09-16  2:33         ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-16  4:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16  4:57             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-16  4:58               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-16 13:41             ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-16 18:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 18:52                 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-16 19:09                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 20:02                     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-16 20:37                       ` James Bottomley
2004-09-16 20:42                         ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-16 21:37                           ` Grant Grundler
2004-09-16 20:04                   ` David S. Miller
2004-09-16 20:13                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-16 20:45                       ` David S. Miller
2004-09-16 20:20                     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-17  5:17                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-17 15:30                     ` Jesse Barnes
2004-09-16 19:01                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 19:13                   ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-16 19:50                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 20:07                       ` Alan Cox
2004-09-17  5:44                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-17  5:20                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-09-17 15:03                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 22:30             ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-09-16 22:42               ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 22:46                 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-16 23:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-16 23:30                     ` Jeff Garzik
2004-09-16 23:43                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-09-17 12:44                 ` Matthew Wilcox

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