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From: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ?mb() -> smp_?mb() conversion
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 03:03:24 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050322160324.GA4980@krispykreme> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050322131316.GC21986@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk>


> > Would it be worth renaming the mb/rmb/wmb to io_mb/io_rmb/io_wmb?
> > After all, I believe they should only be used to flush I/O memory
> > accesses. This would, I think, make the distinction between memory
> > barriers for I/O and memory barriers for SMP more obvious.
> 
> Are you joking or genuinely confused?

To be fair there are a lot of confused people out there. A few examples:

1. My original patch showed there are a number of places we use memory
barriers on UP when not required. Getting rid of mb/rmb/wmb would help
this, people are unlikely to sprinkle io_mb in the scheduler code :)

2. drivers/net/typhoon.c

                INIT_COMMAND_NO_RESPONSE(cmd, TYPHOON_CMD_HELLO_RESP);
                smp_wmb();
                writel(ring->lastWrite, tp->ioaddr + TYPHOON_REG_CMD_READY);

it looks a lot like smp_wmb is being used to order IO.

3. On ppc64 we recently had to upgrade our barriers to make sure
mb/wmb/rmb ordered IO. This is because drivers do this (example taken
from e1000):

        tx_desc->lower.data |= cpu_to_le32(adapter->txd_cmd);

        /* Force memory writes to complete before letting h/w
         * know there are new descriptors to fetch.  (Only
         * applicable for weak-ordered memory model archs,
         * such as IA-64). */
        wmb();

        tx_ring->next_to_use = i;
        E1000_WRITE_REG(&adapter->hw, TDT, i);

Renaming mb/wmb/rmb to io_mb/io_wmb/io_rmb would fit in well here.

4. Its not clear other architectures are insuring wmb/rmb/mb are
ordering IO. Checking ia64:

 * Note: "mb()" and its variants cannot be used as a fence to order
 * accesses to memory mapped I/O registers.  For that, mf.a needs to
 * be used.  However, we don't want to always use mf.a because (a)
 * it's (presumably) much slower than mf and (b) mf.a is supported for
 * sequential memory pages only.

Anton

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-22 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-21 22:59 [PATCH] ?mb() -> smp_?mb() conversion Anton Blanchard
2005-03-21 23:06 ` David S. Miller
2005-03-22 10:43   ` David Howells
2005-03-22 13:13     ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-22 14:27       ` David Howells
2005-03-22 16:03       ` Anton Blanchard [this message]
2005-03-22 16:34         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-22 16:48           ` David Howells
2005-03-22 17:13             ` David S. Miller
2005-03-22 17:44               ` James Bottomley
2005-03-22 18:09                 ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-22 18:00               ` David Howells
2005-03-22 21:59               ` Paul Mackerras
2005-03-22 18:15         ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-22 18:24           ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-23  6:23         ` Paul Mackerras

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