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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd.bergmann@de.ibm.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
	Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	Linux Kernel Development <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] LOG2: Implement a general integer log2 facility in the kernel [try #4]
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:12:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200610101413.00952.arnd.bergmann@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1160466933.7920.25.camel@pmac.infradead.org>

On Tuesday 10 October 2006 09:55, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 18:47 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > That has the potential of breaking other source files that don't expect
> > linux/types.h to bring in the whole stdint.h file.
> 
> I don't think we need to care about those. Userspace in _general_
> shouldn't be including our header files -- this is only for low-level
> system stuff, and that can be expected to deal with the fact that we
> define and use some standard C types from last century.

Some of our headers are traditionally included by libc headers.
E.g. sys/stat.h might include asm/stat.h, but must not include
stdint.h.

It's somewhat different for file that are completely outside
of the scope of posix, e.g. <mtd/*.h>, that don't give any
guarantees about what they include.

> > Also, it may break some other linux header files that include <linux/types.h>
> > and expect to get stuff like uid_t, which you don't get if a glibc header is
> > included first, because of __KERNEL_STRICT_NAMES.
> 
> We have that problem already, don't we?

It would get worse.

An application can now do

#include <linux/types.h>
#include <linux/signal.h>
#include <stdint.h>

but not

#include <stdint.h>
#include <linux/types.h>
#include <linux/signal.h>

If <linux/types.h> includes <stdint.h> itself, the first examples breaks
as well.

I'd prefer to clean up all of our headers so they work with
__KERNEL_STRICT_NAMES and in any order, but that's a lot of work and in
the meantime we should make sure we don't make matters worse.

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-10 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-06 13:34 [PATCH 1/4] LOG2: Implement a general integer log2 facility in the kernel [try #4] David Howells
2006-10-06 13:34 ` [PATCH 2/4] LOG2: Alter roundup_pow_of_two() so that it can use a ilog2() on a constant " David Howells
2006-10-06 13:34 ` [PATCH 3/4] LOG2: Alter get_order() so that it can make use of " David Howells
2006-10-06 13:34 ` [PATCH 4/4] LOG2: Provide ilog2() fallbacks for powerpc " David Howells
2006-10-06 14:17 ` [PATCH 1/4] LOG2: Implement a general integer log2 facility in the kernel " Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-06 14:33   ` David Howells
2006-10-06 17:17   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-10-09 10:11     ` David Howells
2006-10-09 11:06       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-10-09 12:09         ` David Howells
2006-10-09 17:17           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-10-10  9:58             ` David Howells
2006-10-06 20:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-06 20:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-06 20:52     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-09  8:06       ` David Howells
2006-10-09  8:36         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-09  9:51           ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-09 10:26             ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-09 10:32             ` Stephen Rothwell
2006-10-09 12:20             ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-09 12:54               ` David Howells
2006-10-09 20:00                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-09 20:36                   ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-10  9:41                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-10-10 11:42                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-09 13:09               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-09 14:52                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-09 15:05                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-09 15:27                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-09 15:31                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-09 16:47                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-10-10  7:55                           ` David Woodhouse
2006-10-10 12:12                             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2006-10-10 12:23               ` David Howells
2006-10-07 23:50 ` Roman Zippel

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