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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Introduce compat_u64 and compat_s64 types
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:27:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200706151527.45143.ak@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070615141544.5a8e234e@the-village.bc.nu>


> And debug simulators that can be made to trap such accesses, and in most
> cases processors which fault such an access (so you find it) but don't
> provide enough information to restart.
> 
> The testing isn't that hard for a given embedded system and having done
> work Linux does not need other changes re-breaking things.

Hopefully everybody who deploys these systems knows this. It seems
like a open death trap to me, especially since the consequences
are so severe: remote packet of death, could be a recall for 
a network conntected embedded device that doesn't easily allow firmware 
update. And they would rightfully blame Linux.

It would be much safer if the parts of the stack that weren't
audited/tested were marked this way and check for BROKEN_UNALIGNED or similar.

Also frankly I'm surprised that whoever designed these systems
didn't learn from the old M68000 who made this mistake the first time.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-15 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200706150159.l5F1xNgM000459@hera.kernel.org>
     [not found] ` <1181897905.26853.66.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]   ` <200706151128.39566.arnd@arndb.de>
2007-06-15  9:31     ` [PATCH] Introduce compat_u64 and compat_s64 types Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-15  9:55       ` David Miller
2007-06-15 11:55       ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-15 12:00         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15 12:38           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-15 12:03         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-15 12:40           ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-15 12:47             ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15 13:19             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-15 12:09       ` David Howells
2007-06-15 12:43         ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-15 12:54           ` Alan Cox
2007-06-15 12:54             ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-15 13:15               ` Alan Cox
2007-06-15 13:27                 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-06-15 13:32                   ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15 20:50               ` Robin Getz
2007-06-15 21:22                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-06-16  8:31                   ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15 13:00             ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15 12:11       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-06-15 12:38         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15 12:42         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-15 13:45           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-06-15 13:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-15 23:54             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-15 13:16       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-16  9:38       ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-16 10:26         ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-16 11:21           ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-16 11:34             ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-16 13:56               ` Matthew Wilcox

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