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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, horms@verge.net.au,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rpjday@mindspring.com, ak@suse.de,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, cfriesen@nortel.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	jesper.juhl@gmail.com, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, zlynx@acm.org,
	schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, wensong@linux-vs.org, wjiang@resilience.com,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:18:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070815191829.GJ9645@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cbda24e96a49c3ab7cf7039c515f9fc@kernel.crashing.org>

On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:51:58PM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >Well if there is only one memory location involved, then smp_rmb() 
> >isn't
> >going to really do anything anyway, so it would be incorrect to use it.
> 
> rmb() orders *any* two reads; that includes two reads from the same
> location.

If the two reads are to the same location, all CPUs I am aware of
will maintain the ordering without need for a memory barrier.

						Thanx, Paul

> >Consider that smp_rmb basically will do anything from flushing the
> >pipeline to invalidating loads speculatively executed out of order. 
> >AFAIK
> >it will not control the visibility of stores coming from other CPUs 
> >(that
> >is up to the cache coherency).
> 
> The writer side should typically use wmb() whenever the reader side
> uses rmb(), sure.
> 
> 
> Segher
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-15 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-09 13:41 [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv Chris Snook
2007-08-09 16:54 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10  9:23 ` David Howells
2007-08-10 19:54   ` Chris Snook
2007-08-11  0:54     ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11  4:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-13  5:15         ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-13  6:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14  5:34             ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-14  7:26               ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-14 17:01               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14 22:01                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-14 22:43                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 13:29                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-15 15:06                       ` Michael Buesch
2007-08-15 13:30                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 20:15                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16  1:09                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16  2:27                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-11  8:47   ` David Howells
2007-08-13  6:44     ` Chris Snook
2007-08-14  5:42       ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 18:51         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:18           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2007-08-15 19:46             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:59               ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 20:13                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 20:38                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 21:15                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16  1:20                       ` Nick Piggin

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