From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, horms@verge.net.au,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rpjday@mindspring.com, ak@suse.de,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, cfriesen@nortel.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
jesper.juhl@gmail.com, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, zlynx@acm.org,
schwidefsky@de.ibm.com, Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, wensong@linux-vs.org, wjiang@resilience.com,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:18:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070815191829.GJ9645@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2cbda24e96a49c3ab7cf7039c515f9fc@kernel.crashing.org>
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 08:51:58PM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >Well if there is only one memory location involved, then smp_rmb()
> >isn't
> >going to really do anything anyway, so it would be incorrect to use it.
>
> rmb() orders *any* two reads; that includes two reads from the same
> location.
If the two reads are to the same location, all CPUs I am aware of
will maintain the ordering without need for a memory barrier.
Thanx, Paul
> >Consider that smp_rmb basically will do anything from flushing the
> >pipeline to invalidating loads speculatively executed out of order.
> >AFAIK
> >it will not control the visibility of stores coming from other CPUs
> >(that
> >is up to the cache coherency).
>
> The writer side should typically use wmb() whenever the reader side
> uses rmb(), sure.
>
>
> Segher
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-15 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-09 13:41 [PATCH 6/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently on frv Chris Snook
2007-08-09 16:54 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-10 9:23 ` David Howells
2007-08-10 19:54 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-11 0:54 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-11 4:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-13 5:15 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-13 6:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14 5:34 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-14 7:26 ` Herbert Xu
2007-08-14 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-14 22:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-14 22:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 13:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-08-15 15:06 ` Michael Buesch
2007-08-15 13:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 20:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-16 1:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-16 2:27 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-11 8:47 ` David Howells
2007-08-13 6:44 ` Chris Snook
2007-08-14 5:42 ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-15 18:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:18 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2007-08-15 19:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 19:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 20:13 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-15 20:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-08-15 21:15 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-16 1:20 ` Nick Piggin
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