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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	Jared Hulbert <jaredeh@gmail.com>,
	Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch 2/2] mm: introduce optional pte_special pte bit
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:06:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080113050605.GA1340@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0801122042220.2806@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 08:45:06PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 07:41:16PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > > 
> > > What's the point of this?
> > 
> > Well, it's written in the changelog.
> 
> No it's not.
> 
> It says "Rather than play interesting games with vmas..", but:

OK, you have to read to the 3rd paragraph.


> > > That's lots of new (ugly) code, and two totally different paths, that 
> > > aren't even cleanly abstracted, so now there's two separate things that 
> > > are just arbitrarily selected by an #ifdef.
> > 
> > How should it be cleanly abstracted?
> 
> I don't think it can, since you have to leave the old code anyway.

I don't think having 2 code paths means it is a bad abstraction at
all. We do things like that everywhere, what makes you say this is
bad?

My implementation is a bit crude maybe. You could have another arch
call so you write it with an if() instead of an ifdef I guess.

 
> Which just returns me to the original question: what's the actual 
> improvement here?

Well the immediate improvement from this actual patch is just that
it gives better and smaller code for vm_normal_page (even if you
discount the debug checks in the existing code).

But for example, s390 perhaps cannot implement VM_MIXEDMAP using
pfn_valid() like we have in vm_normal_page. The alternative is basically
to have a different path for those guys anyway, so why not make it a
"core" code thing rather than s390 specific.

So. Is there a big problem with adding this extra path? It's really quite
simple, literally just
       if (likely(!pte_special(pte)))
               return pte_page(pte);
       return NULL;

So I don't think maintainability is a problem.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-13  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-13  3:08 [rfc] changes to user memory mapping scheme Nick Piggin
2008-01-13  3:09 ` [rfc][patch 1/2] mm: introduce VM_MIXEDMAP Nick Piggin
2008-01-13  3:10 ` [rfc][patch 2/2] mm: introduce optional pte_special pte bit Nick Piggin
2008-01-13  3:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-13  4:39     ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-13  4:45       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-13  5:06         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-01-13 16:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-13 20:46             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-14 21:04             ` Jared Hulbert
2008-01-15  9:18               ` Carsten Otte
2008-01-16  3:38             ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16  4:04               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16  4:37                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16  4:48                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16  4:51                     ` David Miller
2008-01-16  5:23                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16  5:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16  9:52                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-16  5:17                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-01-16 10:52                       ` Catalin Marinas
2008-01-16 18:18                         ` Russell King
2008-01-16 17:21                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-16 17:14   ` David Howells

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