From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:32806 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754516AbYBNUfD (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:35:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:32:29 -0800 From: Greg KH Subject: Re: Announce: Linux-next (Or Andrew's dream :-)) Message-ID: <20080214203229.GC16545@kroah.com> References: <20080212120208.f7168a91.sfr@canb.auug.org.au> <20080214232229.f7bdc6ac.sfr@canb.auug.org.au> <200802141332.03315.gene.heskett@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200802141332.03315.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Sender: linux-arch-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Gene Heskett Cc: Linus Torvalds , Stephen Rothwell , Russell King , Andrew Morton , Theodore Tso , Trond Myklebust , Arjan van de Ven , LKML , linux-next@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 01:32:02PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 14 February 2008, Linus Torvalds wrote: > [...] > >And this is where "process" really matters. Making sure people don't get > >too frustrated about the constant grind. > > One of the problems caused by this 'grind' is being locked out of using 3rd > party closed drivers until the vendor decides its stable enough to make the > effort to update their binary blobs to match the newer functions. > > Nvidia vs 2.6.25-rc1 being a case in point, and they (nvidia) are appearing to > indicate its not a problem until some distro actually ships a kernel with the > changes that broke it. That could be months or even a year plus. How about "weeks". Both Fedora and openSUSE's next release is going to be based on 2.6.25, and the first round of -rc1 kernels should be showing up in their trees in a few days. So for this instance, I think you will be fine :) thanks, greg k-h