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From: David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
To: npiggin-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org
Cc: akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: Re: [patch 1/2]: x86: implement pte_special
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:44:31 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080327.204431.201380891.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080328033149.GD8083-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>

From: Nick Piggin <npiggin-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:31:50 +0100

> Basically, the pfn-based mapping insertion (vm_insert_pfn, remap_pfn_range)
> calls pte_mkspecial. And that tells fast_gup "hands off".

I don't think it's wise to allocate a "soft PTE bit" for this on every
platform, especially for such a limited use case.

Is it feasible to test the page instead?  Or are we talking about
cases where there may not be a backing page?

If the issue is to discern things like I/O mappings and such vs. real
pages, there are ways a platform can handle that without a special
bit.

That would leave us with real memory that does not have backing
page structs, and we have a way to test that too.

The special PTE bit seems superfluous to me.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: npiggin@suse.de
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, shaggy@austin.ibm.com,
	axboe@oracle.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2]: x86: implement pte_special
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:44:31 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080327.204431.201380891.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
Message-ID: <20080328034431.Llb8NBJysOQCqArTD_3d6YvOuUamcUCoI6OpfEMkrek@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080328033149.GD8083@wotan.suse.de>

From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:31:50 +0100

> Basically, the pfn-based mapping insertion (vm_insert_pfn, remap_pfn_range)
> calls pte_mkspecial. And that tells fast_gup "hands off".

I don't think it's wise to allocate a "soft PTE bit" for this on every
platform, especially for such a limited use case.

Is it feasible to test the page instead?  Or are we talking about
cases where there may not be a backing page?

If the issue is to discern things like I/O mappings and such vs. real
pages, there are ways a platform can handle that without a special
bit.

That would leave us with real memory that does not have backing
page structs, and we have a way to test that too.

The special PTE bit seems superfluous to me.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-28  3:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-28  2:54 [patch 0/2]: lockless get_user_pages patchset Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  2:54 ` Nick Piggin
     [not found] ` <20080328025455.GA8083-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  2:55   ` [patch 1/2]: x86: implement pte_special Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  2:55     ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]     ` <20080328025541.GB8083-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  3:23       ` David Miller
2008-03-28  3:23         ` David Miller
     [not found]         ` <20080327.202334.250213398.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  3:31           ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:31             ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]             ` <20080328033149.GD8083-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  3:44               ` David Miller [this message]
2008-03-28  3:44                 ` David Miller
     [not found]                 ` <20080327.204431.201380891.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  4:04                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:04                     ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                     ` <20080328040442.GE8083-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  4:09                       ` David Miller
2008-03-28  4:09                         ` David Miller
     [not found]                         ` <20080327.210910.101408473.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  4:15                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:15                             ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                             ` <20080328041519.GF8083-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  4:16                               ` David Miller
2008-03-28  4:16                                 ` David Miller
     [not found]                                 ` <20080327.211632.02770342.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28  4:19                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:19                                     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:17                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  4:17                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:00   ` [patch 2/2]: introduce fast_gup Nick Piggin
2008-03-28  3:00     ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]     ` <20080328030023.GC8083-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-03-28 10:01       ` Jens Axboe
2008-03-28 10:01         ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17 15:03       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 15:03         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 15:25         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 15:25           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0804170814090.2879-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-17 16:12             ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:12               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 16:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                 ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0804170916470.2879-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-17 16:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 16:40                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 16:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0804170940270.2879-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-17 17:23                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 17:23                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-17 18:28                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-17 18:28                             ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                             ` <alpine.LFD.1.00.0804171127310.2879-5CScLwifNT1QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22  3:14                               ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-22  3:14                                 ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-18  6:31                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-04-18  6:31                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-04-18 14:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-18 14:40                               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-04-18  9:58               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-18  9:58                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-21 12:00             ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 12:00               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]               ` <480C81C4.8030200-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-21 12:30                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-21 12:30                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-21 13:26                   ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-21 13:26                     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <480C9619.2050201-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-21 14:35                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-21 14:35                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  3:23                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-22  3:23                           ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                           ` <20080422032319.GB21993-B4tOwbsTzaBolqkO4TVVkw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-22  7:19                             ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-22  7:19                               ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-22  8:07                             ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22  8:07                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-04-22  9:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  9:42         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-04-22  9:46         ` Nick Piggin
2008-04-22  9:46           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-14 18:33           ` Dave Kleikamp
2008-05-15  1:13             ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-21 11:59 [patch 1/2] x86: implement pte_special Nick Piggin
2008-05-25 14:48 Nick Piggin

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