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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, jeremy@goop.org, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 05:42:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080502124205.GA23680@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080502122955.GB15522@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 05:29:55AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 04:12:34AM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 07:02:41PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 02:37:17PM +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > > > Here are some (probably totally broken) ideas:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1.	Global lock so that only one smp_call_function() in the
> > > > > 	system proceeds.  Additional calls would be spinning with
> > > > > 	irqs -enabled- on the lock, avoiding deadlock.  Kind of
> > > > > 	defeats the purpose of your list, though...
> > > > 
> > > > That is what we used to do, that will obviously work. But defeats most
> > > > of the purpose, unfortunately :-)
> > > > 
> > > > > 2.	Maintain a global mask of current targets of smp_call_function()
> > > > > 	CPUs.  A given CPU may proceed if it is not a current target
> > > > > 	and if none of its target CPUs are already in the mask.
> > > > > 	This mask would be manipulated under a global lock.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 3.	As in #2 above, but use per-CPU counters.  This allows the
> > > > > 	current CPU to proceed if it is not a target, but also allows
> > > > > 	concurrent smp_call_function()s to proceed even if their
> > > > > 	lists of target CPUs overlap.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 4.	#2 or #3, but where CPUs can proceed freely if their allocation
> > > > > 	succeeded.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 5.	If a given CPU is waiting for other CPUs to respond, it polls
> > > > > 	its own list (with irqs disabled), thus breaking the deadlock.
> > > > > 	This means that you cannot call smp_call_function() while holding
> > > > > 	a lock that might be acquired by the called function, but that
> > > > > 	is not a new prohibition -- the only safe way to hold such a
> > > > > 	lock is with irqs disabled, and you are not allowed to call
> > > > > 	the smp_call_function() with irqs disabled in the first place
> > > > > 	(right?).
> > > > > 
> > > > > #5 might actually work...
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, #5 sounds quite promising. I'll see if I can work up a patch for
> > > > that, or if you feel so inclined, I'll definitely take patches :-)
> > > > 
> > > > The branch is 'generic-ipi' on git://git.kernel.dk/linux-2.6-block.git
> > > > The link is pretty slow, so it's best pull'ed off of Linus base. Or just
> > > > grab the patches from the gitweb interface:
> > > > 
> > > > http://git.kernel.dk/?p=linux-2.6-block.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/generic-ipi
> > > 
> > > And here is an untested patch for getting rid of the fallback element,
> > > and eliminating the "wait" deadlocks.
> > 
> > Hey this is coming along really nicely, thanks guys.
> > 
> > The only problem I have with this is that if you turn IRQs off, you
> > probably don't expect call function functions to be processed under
> > you (sure that doesn't happen now, but it could if anybody actually
> > starts to call IPIs under irq off).
> 
> OK -- for some reason, I was thinking that it was illegal to
> invoke smp_call_function() with irqs disabled...
> 
> Ah, I see it -- smp_call_function_mask() says:
> 
>  * You must not call this function with disabled interrupts or from a
>  * hardware interrupt handler or from a bottom half handler.
> 
> So we have no problem with smp_call_function, then.
> 
> OK, so smp_call_function() -can- be invoked with irqs disabled?
> Hmmm...  I will give this some thought.
> 
> > What I _really_ wanted to do is just keep the core API as a non-deadlocky
> > one that has its data passed into it; and then implemented the fallbacky,
> > deadlocky one on top of that. In places where it makes sense, callers
> > could then use the new API if they want to.
> 
> I don't believe that you can make the fallback non-deadlocky...  Perhaps
> a failure of imagination on my part, of course, but I am beginning to
> doubt that...

And here is one scenario that makes me doubt that my imagination is
faulty:

1.	CPU 0 disables irqs.

2.	CPU 1 disables irqs.

3.	CPU 0 invokes smp_call_function().  But CPU 1 will never respond
	because its irqs are disabled.

4.	CPU 1 invokes smp_call_function().  But CPU 0 will never respond
	because its irqs are disabled.

Looks like inherent deadlock to me, requiring that smp_call_function()
be invoked with irqs enabled.

So, what am I missing here?

							Thanx, Paul

> > We could make another rule that smp_call_function might also run functions,
> > but IMO that is starting to turn into spaghetti ;) Clever spaghetti though,
> > I give you that!
> 
> Well, given that you cannot call smp_call_function_mask() with irqs
> disabled, my approach -does- work in that case, as an irq might come
> in just after you called the function but before irqs were disabled.
> 
> So, how many places is smp_call_function() invoked with irqs disabled?
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul
> 
> > > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > >  smp.c |   80 +++++++++++-------------------------------------------------------
> > >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 66 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/kernel/smp.c b/kernel/smp.c
> > > index 36d3eca..9df96fa 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/smp.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/smp.c
> > > @@ -17,7 +17,6 @@ __cacheline_aligned_in_smp DEFINE_SPINLOCK(call_function_lock);
> > >  enum {
> > >  	CSD_FLAG_WAIT		= 0x01,
> > >  	CSD_FLAG_ALLOC		= 0x02,
> > > -	CSD_FLAG_FALLBACK	= 0x04,
> > >  };
> > >  
> > >  struct call_function_data {
> > > @@ -33,9 +32,6 @@ struct call_single_queue {
> > >  	spinlock_t lock;
> > >  };
> > >  
> > > -static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct call_function_data, cfd_fallback);
> > > -static DEFINE_PER_CPU(unsigned long, cfd_fallback_used);
> > > -
> > >  void __cpuinit init_call_single_data(void)
> > >  {
> > >  	int i;
> > > @@ -59,6 +55,7 @@ static void csd_flag_wait(struct call_single_data *data)
> > >  		if (!(data->flags & CSD_FLAG_WAIT))
> > >  			break;
> > >  		cpu_relax();
> > > +		generic_smp_call_function_interrupt();
> > >  	} while (1);
> > >  }
> > >  
> > > @@ -84,48 +81,13 @@ static void generic_exec_single(int cpu, struct call_single_data *data)
> > >  		csd_flag_wait(data);
> > >  }
> > >  
> > > -/*
> > > - * We need to have a global per-cpu fallback of call_function_data, so
> > > - * we can safely proceed with smp_call_function() if dynamic allocation
> > > - * fails and we cannot fall back to on-stack allocation (if wait == 0).
> > > - */
> > > -static noinline void acquire_cpu_fallback(int cpu)
> > > -{
> > > -	while (test_and_set_bit_lock(0, &per_cpu(cfd_fallback_used, cpu)))
> > > -		cpu_relax();
> > > -}
> > > -
> > > -static noinline void free_cpu_fallback(struct call_single_data *csd)
> > > -{
> > > -	struct call_function_data *data;
> > > -	int cpu;
> > > -
> > > -	data = container_of(csd, struct call_function_data, csd);
> > > -
> > > -	/*
> > > -	 * We could drop this loop by embedding a cpu variable in
> > > -	 * csd, but this should happen so extremely rarely (if ever)
> > > -	 * that this seems like a better idea
> > > -	 */
> > > -	for_each_possible_cpu(cpu) {
> > > -		if (&per_cpu(cfd_fallback, cpu) != data)
> > > -			continue;
> > > -
> > > -		clear_bit_unlock(0, &per_cpu(cfd_fallback_used, cpu));
> > > -		break;
> > > -	}
> > > -}
> > > -
> > >  static void rcu_free_call_data(struct rcu_head *head)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct call_function_data *data;
> > >  
> > >  	data = container_of(head, struct call_function_data, rcu_head);
> > >  
> > > -	if (data->csd.flags & CSD_FLAG_ALLOC)
> > > -		kfree(data);
> > > -	else
> > > -		free_cpu_fallback(&data->csd);
> > > +	kfree(data);
> > >  }
> > >  
> > >  /*
> > > @@ -222,8 +184,6 @@ void generic_smp_call_function_single_interrupt(void)
> > >  				data->flags &= ~CSD_FLAG_WAIT;
> > >  			} else if (data_flags & CSD_FLAG_ALLOC)
> > >  				kfree(data);
> > > -			else if (data_flags & CSD_FLAG_FALLBACK)
> > > -				free_cpu_fallback(data);
> > >  		}
> > >  		/*
> > >  		 * See comment on outer loop
> > > @@ -244,6 +204,7 @@ void generic_smp_call_function_single_interrupt(void)
> > >  int smp_call_function_single(int cpu, void (*func) (void *info), void *info,
> > >  			     int retry, int wait)
> > >  {
> > > +	struct call_single_data d = NULL;
> > >  	unsigned long flags;
> > >  	/* prevent preemption and reschedule on another processor */
> > >  	int me = get_cpu();
> > > @@ -258,21 +219,14 @@ int smp_call_function_single(int cpu, void (*func) (void *info), void *info,
> > >  	} else {
> > >  		struct call_single_data *data;
> > >  
> > > -		if (wait) {
> > > -			struct call_single_data d;
> > > -
> > > -			data = &d;
> > > -			data->flags = CSD_FLAG_WAIT;
> > > -		} else {
> > > +		if (!wait) {
> > >  			data = kmalloc(sizeof(*data), GFP_ATOMIC);
> > >  			if (data)
> > >  				data->flags = CSD_FLAG_ALLOC;
> > > -			else {
> > > -				acquire_cpu_fallback(me);
> > > -
> > > -				data = &per_cpu(cfd_fallback, me).csd;
> > > -				data->flags = CSD_FLAG_FALLBACK;
> > > -			}
> > > +		}
> > > +		if (!data) {
> > > +			data = &d;
> > > +			data->flags = CSD_FLAG_WAIT;
> > >  		}
> > >  
> > >  		data->func = func;
> > > @@ -320,6 +274,7 @@ void __smp_call_function_single(int cpu, struct call_single_data *data)
> > >  int smp_call_function_mask(cpumask_t mask, void (*func)(void *), void *info,
> > >  			   int wait)
> > >  {
> > > +	struct call_function_data d;
> > >  	struct call_function_data *data;
> > >  	cpumask_t allbutself;
> > >  	unsigned long flags;
> > > @@ -345,21 +300,14 @@ int smp_call_function_mask(cpumask_t mask, void (*func)(void *), void *info,
> > >  		return smp_call_function_single(cpu, func, info, 0, wait);
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > > -	if (wait) {
> > > -		struct call_function_data d;
> > > -
> > > -		data = &d;
> > > -		data->csd.flags = CSD_FLAG_WAIT;
> > > -	} else {
> > > +	if (!wait) {
> > >  		data = kmalloc(sizeof(*data), GFP_ATOMIC);
> > >  		if (data)
> > >  			data->csd.flags = CSD_FLAG_ALLOC;
> > > -		else {
> > > -			acquire_cpu_fallback(cpu);
> > > -
> > > -			data = &per_cpu(cfd_fallback, cpu);
> > > -			data->csd.flags = CSD_FLAG_FALLBACK;
> > > -		}
> > > +	}
> > > +	if (!data) {
> > > +		data = &d;
> > > +		data->csd.flags = CSD_FLAG_WAIT;
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > >  	spin_lock_init(&data->lock);

  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-02 12:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-29  7:26 [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #3 Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found] ` <1209453990-7735-1-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]     ` <1209453990-7735-2-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29 13:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-29 13:59         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]         ` <20080429135936.GC12390-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 11:29           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 11:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]             ` <20080430112934.GA23203-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 11:34               ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 11:34                 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                 ` <20080430113456.GY12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:17                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 12:17                     ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                     ` <20080430121712.GR11126-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:37                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 12:37                         ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                         ` <20080430123717.GC12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-01  2:44                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-01  2:44                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02  2:02                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02  2:12                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-02 12:29                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:42                               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2008-05-02 12:59                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 12:59                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 14:21                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 14:21                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-03  2:30                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-03  5:49                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-03 18:11                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-04 22:04                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05  4:15                                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05  4:15                                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 17:43                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-07 20:42                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-08  4:36                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:50                               ` Keith Owens
2008-05-02 13:09                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 22:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30 22:56         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 2/10] x86: convert to generic helpers for " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]     ` <1209453990-7735-3-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29 20:35       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-29 20:35         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]         ` <481786A5.7010604-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 11:35           ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 11:35             ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]             ` <20080430113542.GZ12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:20               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 12:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                 ` <20080430122001.GS11126-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:31                   ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 12:31                     ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                     ` <20080430123136.GB12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 14:51                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30 14:51                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30 21:39       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30 21:39         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 3/10] powerpc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 4/10] ia64: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 5/10] alpha: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 6/10] arm: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 7/10] m32r: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 8/10] mips: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 9/10] parisc: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 10/10] sh: " Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-29  8:58 [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #4 Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-05-30 11:24   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-06  8:44     ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-10 14:51   ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-10 15:44     ` James Bottomley
2008-06-10 16:04       ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-10 15:47     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-10 16:53       ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-11  3:25         ` Nick Piggin
2008-06-11 10:13           ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-11 10:13             ` Catalin Marinas
2008-07-06 17:21   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

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