linux-arch.vger.kernel.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, jeremy@goop.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:25:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080611032531.GC8228@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1213116788.24701.133.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 05:53:08PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 08:47 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 03:51:25PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > I was thinking whether this condition can be removed and allow the
> > > smp_call_function*() to be called with IRQs disabled. At a quick look,
> > > it seems to be possible if the csd_flag_wait() function calls the IPI
> > > handlers directly when the IRQs are disabled (see the patch below).
> [...]
> > There were objections last month:  http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/5/3/167
> 
> Thanks, I missed this discussion.
> 
> > The issue was that this permits some interrupts to arrive despite
> > interrupts being disabled.  There seemed to be less resistance to
> > doing this in the wait==1 case, however.
> 
> The "(wait == 1) && irqs_disabled()" case is what I would be interested
> in. In the patch you proposed, this doesn't seem to be allowed (at least
> from the use of WARN_ON). However, from your post in May:
> 
> > 5.	If you call smp_call_function() with irqs disabled, then you
> > 	are guaranteed that no other CPU's smp_call_function() handler
> > 	will be invoked while smp_call_function() is executing.
> 
> this would be possible but no one need this functionality yet.
> 
> Would one use-case (ARM SMP and DMA cache maintenance) be enough to
> implement this or I should add it to the ARM-specific code?

How will you implement it? You have to be able to wait *somewhere*
(either before or after the smp_call_function call) with interrupts
enabled. It is not enough just to eg. use a spinlock around
smp_call_function, because other CPUs might also be trying to call
down the same path also with interrupts disabled, and they'll wait
forever on the spinlock.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-11  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-29  8:58 [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #4 Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-05-30 11:24   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-06  8:44     ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-10 14:51   ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-10 15:44     ` James Bottomley
2008-06-10 16:04       ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-10 15:47     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-06-10 16:53       ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-11  3:25         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2008-06-11 10:13           ` Catalin Marinas
2008-06-11 10:13             ` Catalin Marinas
2008-07-06 17:21   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 2/10] x86: convert to generic helpers for " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 12:12   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-29 12:17     ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 13:47       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 3/10] powerpc: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 4/10] ia64: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 5/10] alpha: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 6/10] arm: " Jens Axboe
2008-06-02 12:29   ` Russell King
2008-06-02 12:29     ` Russell King
2008-06-06  8:47     ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 7/10] m32r: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 8/10] mips: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-29 14:20   ` Ralf Baechle
2008-05-30  7:23     ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 9/10] parisc: " Jens Axboe
2008-05-31  7:00   ` Kyle McMartin
2008-05-31  7:00     ` Kyle McMartin
2008-06-02  8:17     ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-02 16:09       ` Kyle McMartin
2008-06-06  8:47         ` Jens Axboe
2008-06-06 21:11           ` Kyle McMartin
2008-06-09  8:47             ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-29  8:58 ` [PATCH 10/10] sh: " Jens Axboe
2008-06-01  8:57 ` [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #4 Andrew Morton
2008-06-01  8:57   ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-01  9:52   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-29  7:26 [PATCH 0/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls #3 Jens Axboe
     [not found] ` <1209453990-7735-1-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29  7:26   ` [PATCH 1/10] Add generic helpers for arch IPI function calls Jens Axboe
2008-04-29  7:26     ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]     ` <1209453990-7735-2-git-send-email-jens.axboe-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-29 13:59       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-29 13:59         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]         ` <20080429135936.GC12390-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 11:29           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 11:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]             ` <20080430112934.GA23203-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 11:34               ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 11:34                 ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                 ` <20080430113456.GY12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:17                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 12:17                     ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                     ` <20080430121712.GR11126-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2008-04-30 12:37                       ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-30 12:37                         ` Jens Axboe
     [not found]                         ` <20080430123717.GC12774-tSWWG44O7X1aa/9Udqfwiw@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-01  2:44                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-01  2:44                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02  2:02                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02  2:12                           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-02 12:29                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:42                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:59                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 12:59                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-05-02 14:21                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 14:21                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-03  2:30                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-03  5:49                                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-03 18:11                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-04 22:04                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-05  4:15                                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05  4:15                                         ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-05 17:43                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-07 20:42                                           ` Jens Axboe
2008-05-08  4:36                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-05-02 12:50                               ` Keith Owens
2008-05-02 13:09                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-04-30 22:56       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-04-30 22:56         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20080611032531.GC8228@wotan.suse.de \
    --to=npiggin@suse.de \
    --cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
    --cc=jens.axboe@oracle.com \
    --cc=jeremy@goop.org \
    --cc=linux-arch@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@elte.hu \
    --cc=paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=peterz@infradead.org \
    --cc=rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).