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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: monstr@seznam.cz
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	stephen.neuendorffer@xilinx.com, John.Linn@xilinx.com,
	john.williams@petalogix.com, matthew@wil.cx,
	will.newton@gmail.com, drepper@redhat.com,
	microblaze-uclinux@itee.uq.edu.au, grant.likely@secretlab.ca,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, vapier.adi@gmail.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, hpa@zytor.com
Subject: Re: Microblaze init port v4
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:51:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200806261951.12809.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806261709.37045.arnd@arndb.de>

On Thursday 26 June 2008, Arnd Bergmann wrote:

> That still leaves the problem that a lot of your syscalls have bugs
> copied from other platforms. If you need to maintain backwards compatibility
> with your existing binaries, that's fine, but please fix the code you are
> adding.

Sorry for my harsh words here, I should have read your patch set before
commenting on the introduction.
Most of the interfaces look good now, there are really just details left
now.

So contrary to what we had discussed before, you seem to have decided
to try to maintain source level compatibility with old uClibc versions,
but dropped binary compatibility that does not make much sense on
your architecture (considering that people synthesize their CPU with
a custom instruction set and then build kernel and user space for that),
which sounds reasonable to me, based on the earlier discussion.

On a more detailed level, there are a number of decisions in your
syscall interface, so let me summarize what I see you have done
and please tell me if this was all intentional or just an arbitrary
decision that seemed good at some point:

* off_t is 32 bit, and you use both off_t and loff_t based syscalls:
This is required because uClibc calls both versions of the syscalls,
otherwise you'd need to add a lot of code in uClibc.

* You implement both legacy and rt signal interfaces, just like
everyone else does. It probably seemed like a good idea because
something might actually be using the legacy interfaces in
arch/microblaze/kernel/signal.c, but AFAICT, neither libc nor
uClibc has been using them in a very long time when they are
both present, certainly longer than microblaze has been around.
The fact that you never noticed the missing sigaltstack implementation
is a good indication that this code has never seen any testing
and probably has more bugs.

* You have not implemented the *at() family of syscalls, which seems
to be an accidental misimplementation, and you have consequently
not removed the older versions of these syscalls, which is
correct if you don't want to break source level compatibility.

* Your syscall list follows the exact same numbering as i386,
which is fairly unusual, but not incorrect, despite wasting
a little memory on the unused slots. I suppose you did this
in order to keep some level of binary compatibility with older
user code. Since you are subtly breaking compatibility now,
I would still recommend changing all the numbers so that you
can guarantee that every old binary is obviously broken
instead of showing random problems.

* You are using sys_ipc and sys_socketcall instead of the
broken-out syscalls, which is a direct consequence of following
the i386 numbering scheme.

* You have defined both stat and stat64, with different definitions.
uClibc does have a copy of the two struct definitions, so you can't
easily change them without changing uClibc as well. Otherwise it
would have been good to define struct stat in the same way as
struct stat64, and only provide sys_stat but not sys_stat64 as
a syscall.

* I have already commented on the __ARCH_WANT_SYS_* macros you
define. Independent of the off_t, signal and *at() syscalls, I
think you should reduce the number of them by as much as you
can without breaking uClibc support. You can probably remove
almost all of them (not __ARCH_WANT_SYS_RT_SIGACTION,
__ARCH_WANT_STAT64 and __ARCH_WANT_SYS_SOCKETCALL, as I mentioned).

* Your syscall_table now contains two entries for each of the
uid32 functions, e.g __NR_setreuid32 and __NR_setreuid have
different numbers but both point to sys_setreuid.
No problem here, but a little unusual. As with the other functions
I mentioned, uClibc and glibc always call the *32 variant if that
is defined and the other one if it's not. I would suggest doing either
#define __NR_setreuid32 __NR_setreuid
#define __NR_setreuid 203
or (better)
#undef __NR_setreuid32
#define __NR_setreuid 203
to make the architecture more regular in this regard.

	Arnd <><

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-26 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-26 12:29 Microblaze init port v4 monstr
2008-06-26 12:29 ` [PATCH 01/60] microblaze_v4: Kconfig patches monstr
2008-06-26 12:29   ` [PATCH 02/60] microblaze_v4: Makefiles for Microblaze cpu monstr
2008-06-26 12:29     ` [PATCH 03/60] microblaze_v4: Cpuinfo handling monstr
2008-06-26 12:29       ` monstr
2008-06-26 12:29       ` [PATCH 04/60] microblaze_v4: Open firmware files1 monstr
2008-06-26 12:29         ` [PATCH 05/60] microblaze_v4: Open firmware files2 monstr
2008-06-26 12:29           ` [PATCH 06/60] microblaze_v4: Open firmware common files monstr
2008-06-26 12:29             ` [PATCH 07/60] microblaze_v4: Support for semaphores monstr
2008-06-26 12:29               ` [PATCH 08/60] microblaze_v4: exception handling monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                 ` [PATCH 09/60] microblaze_v4: Signal support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                   ` [PATCH 10/60] microblaze_v4: Interrupt handling, timer support, supported function monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                     ` [PATCH 11/60] microblaze_v4: cache support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                       ` [PATCH 12/60] microblaze_v4: Generic dts file for platforms monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                         ` [PATCH 13/60] microblaze_v4: kernel modules support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                           ` [PATCH 14/60] microblaze_v4: lmb support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                             ` [PATCH 15/60] microblaze_v4: PVR support, cpuinfo support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                               ` [PATCH 16/60] microblaze_v4: defconfig file monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                 ` [PATCH 17/60] microblaze_v4: head.S + linker script monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                   ` [PATCH 18/60] microblaze_v4: supported function for memory - kernel/lib monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                     ` [PATCH 19/60] microblaze_v4: checksum support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                       ` monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                       ` [PATCH 20/60] microblaze_v4: early_printk support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                         ` [PATCH 21/60] microblaze_v4: uaccess files monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                           ` monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                           ` [PATCH 22/60] microblaze_v4: heartbeat file monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                             ` monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                             ` [PATCH 23/60] microblaze_v4: setup.c - system setting monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                               ` [PATCH 24/60] microblaze_v4: asm-offsets monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                                 ` [PATCH 25/60] microblaze_v4: process and init task function monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                                   ` [PATCH 26/60] microblaze_v4: time support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                                     ` monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                                     ` [PATCH 27/60] microblaze_v4: virtualization monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                                       ` [PATCH 28/60] microblaze_v4: ptrace support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                                         ` [PATCH 29/60] microblaze_v4: traps support monstr
2008-06-26 12:29                                                           ` [PATCH 30/60] microblaze_v4: support for a.out monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                             ` [PATCH 31/60] microblaze_v4: memory inicialization, MMU, TLB monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                               ` [PATCH 32/60] microblaze_v4: page.h, segment.h, unaligned.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                 ` [PATCH 33/60] microblaze_v4: includes SHM*, msgbuf monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                   ` [PATCH 34/60] microblaze_v4: bug headers files monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                     ` [PATCH 35/60] microblaze_v4: definitions of types monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                       ` [PATCH 36/60] microblaze_v4: ioctl support monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                         ` [PATCH 37/60] microblaze_v4: io.h IO operations monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                           ` [PATCH 38/60] microblaze_v4: headers for executables format FLAT, ELF monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                             ` monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                             ` [PATCH 39/60] microblaze_v4: dma support monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                               ` [PATCH 40/60] microblaze_v4: headers for irq monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                 ` [PATCH 41/60] microblaze_v4: atomic.h bitops.h byteorder.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                   ` [PATCH 42/60] microblaze_v4: headers pgalloc.h pgtable.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                     ` [PATCH 43/60] microblaze_v4: system.h pvr.h processor.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                       ` [PATCH 44/60] microblaze_v4: clinkage.h linkage.h sections.h kmap_types.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                         ` monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                         ` [PATCH 45/60] microblaze_v4: stats headers monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                           ` [PATCH 46/60] microblaze_v4: termbits.h termios.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                             ` [PATCH 47/60] microblaze_v4: sigcontext.h siginfo.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                               ` [PATCH 48/60] microblaze_v4: headers simple files - empty or redirect to asm-generic monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                 ` [PATCH 49/60] microblaze_v4: headers files entry.h current.h mman.h registers.h sembuf.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                   ` [PATCH 50/60] microblaze_v4: device.h param.h topology.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                     ` [PATCH 51/60] microblaze_v4: pool.h socket.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                       ` [PATCH 52/60] microblaze_v4: fcntl.h sockios.h ucontext.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                         ` [PATCH 53/60] microblaze_v4: setup.h string.h thread_info.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                           ` [PATCH 54/60] microblaze_v4: Kbuild file monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                             ` [PATCH 55/60] microblaze_v4: pci headers monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                               ` [PATCH 56/60] microblaze_v4: IPC headers monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                                 ` [PATCH 57/60] microblaze_v4: entry.S monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                                   ` [PATCH 58/60] microblaze_v4: sys_microblaze.c monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                                     ` [PATCH 59/60] microblaze_v4: syscall_table.S and unistd.h monstr
2008-06-26 12:30                                                                                                                       ` [PATCH 60/60] microblaze_v4: Enable drivers for Microblaze monstr
2008-06-26 14:16                                                                                                                         ` Peter Korsgaard
2008-06-26 16:31                                                                                                                       ` [PATCH 59/60] microblaze_v4: syscall_table.S and unistd.h Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 16:31                                                                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 17:02                                                                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-26 17:02                                                                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-28  5:10                                                                                                                       ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-26 15:48                                                                                                                     ` [PATCH 58/60] microblaze_v4: sys_microblaze.c Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 19:07                                                                                                                       ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 22:34                                                                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 16:04                                                                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 15:43                                                                                                         ` [PATCH 52/60] microblaze_v4: fcntl.h sockios.h ucontext.h Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 16:46                                                                                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 16:46                                                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 15:35                                                                                                 ` [PATCH 48/60] microblaze_v4: headers simple files - empty or redirect to asm-generic Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 16:21                                                                                                   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-26 16:38                                                                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 16:38                                                                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 17:57                                                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-26 17:57                                                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-26 22:09                                                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 18:05                                                                                                       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-26 23:23                                                                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-27 11:59                                                                                                           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-27 13:19                                                                                                             ` Michal Simek
2008-06-27 13:19                                                                                                               ` Michal Simek
2008-06-27 13:55                                                                                                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-26 13:18                                                                                             ` [PATCH 46/60] microblaze_v4: termbits.h termios.h Alan Cox
2008-06-26 18:44                                                                                               ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 18:44                                                                                                 ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 15:28                                                                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 15:18                                                                   ` [PATCH 33/60] microblaze_v4: includes SHM*, msgbuf Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 15:14                                                               ` [PATCH 31/60] microblaze_v4: memory inicialization, MMU, TLB Arnd Bergmann
2008-07-08  6:17                                                                 ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 14:37                                                             ` [PATCH 30/60] microblaze_v4: support for a.out Adrian Bunk
2008-06-26 19:23                                                               ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 19:27                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-26 21:30                                                                   ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 21:38                                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-28  5:04                                                             ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-28  5:03                                                           ` [PATCH 29/60] microblaze_v4: traps support Paul Mundt
2008-06-28  4:59                                                         ` [PATCH 28/60] microblaze_v4: ptrace support Paul Mundt
2008-07-01 20:46                                                       ` [PATCH 27/60] microblaze_v4: virtualization Adrian Bunk
2008-06-27 10:43                                                     ` [PATCH 26/60] microblaze_v4: time support Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-27 13:10                                                       ` Michal Simek
2008-06-28  4:50                                                   ` [PATCH 25/60] microblaze_v4: process and init task function Paul Mundt
2008-06-28  4:43                                                 ` [PATCH 24/60] microblaze_v4: asm-offsets Paul Mundt
2008-06-28 22:28                                       ` [PATCH 19/60] microblaze_v4: checksum support Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-28 22:28                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-30  7:18                                         ` Michal Simek
2008-06-30 16:25                                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-26 15:07                         ` [PATCH 12/60] microblaze_v4: Generic dts file for platforms Jon Loeliger
2008-06-26 18:57                           ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 18:57                             ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 20:18                             ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-06-26 21:41                               ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 21:41                                 ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 21:44                                 ` Jon Loeliger
2008-06-26 21:44                                   ` Jon Loeliger
2008-06-28  5:49                         ` Grant Likely
2008-06-30  0:02                           ` John Williams
2008-06-30  3:39                             ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-06-30  3:59                               ` John Williams
2008-06-30  7:11                               ` Michal Simek
2008-07-01  6:21                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-07-01 15:58                                 ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-07-02  0:25                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-06-30  6:48                             ` Michal Simek
2008-06-30  6:48                               ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 16:35                 ` [PATCH 08/60] microblaze_v4: exception handling Ray Lee
2008-06-26 16:35                   ` Ray Lee
2008-06-26 19:19                   ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 19:19                     ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 19:43                     ` Ray Lee
2008-06-26 21:06                       ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 14:36               ` [PATCH 07/60] microblaze_v4: Support for semaphores Adrian Bunk
2008-06-26 19:27                 ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 14:36     ` [PATCH 02/60] microblaze_v4: Makefiles for Microblaze cpu Adrian Bunk
2008-06-26 18:46       ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 18:46         ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 19:40         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-27  0:03           ` John Williams
2008-06-28  4:38   ` [PATCH 01/60] microblaze_v4: Kconfig patches Paul Mundt
2008-06-26 15:01 ` Microblaze init port v4 Adrian Bunk
2008-06-26 18:50   ` Michal Simek
2008-06-26 19:43     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-26 20:27       ` Stephen Neuendorffer
2008-06-27  0:12   ` John Williams
2008-06-26 15:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-06-26 17:51   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2008-06-26 17:54     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-26 17:54       ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-26 18:59   ` Michal Simek

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