From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb()
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:17:03 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081107171703.GE22134@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8481.1226077497@redhat.com>
* David Howells (dhowells@redhat.com) wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca> wrote:
>
> > First off, using this macro with get_cycles() is simply buggy, because the
> > macro expects _perfect_ order of timestamps, no skew whatsoever, or
> > otherwise time could jump.
>
> Erm... Why can't I pass it get_cycles()? Are you saying that sched_clock()
> in MN10300 is wrong for it's use of get_cycles() with cnt32_to_63()?
>
Yes. Do you think the synchronization of the cycles counters is
_perfect_ across CPUs so that there is no possible way whatsoever that
two cycle counter values appear to go backward between CPUs ? (also
taking in account delays in __m_cnt_hi write-back...)
As I showed in my previous example, if you are unlucky enough to hit the
spot where the cycle counters go backward at the time warp edge, time
will jump of 2^32, so about 4.29s at 1GHz.
> > __x.lo = readl(cnt_lo); /* mmio read */
>
> readl() might insert an extra barrier instruction. Not only that, io_addr
> must be unsigned long.
If we expect the only correct use-case to be with readl(), I don't see
the problem with added synchronization.
>
Ah, right, then the parameters should be updated accordingly.
static inline u64 cnt32_to_63(unsigned long io_addr, u32 *__m_cnt_hi)
{
union cnt32_to_63 __x;
__x.hi = *__m_cnt_hi; /* memory read for high bits internal state */
rmb(); /*
* read high bits before low bits insures time
* does not go backward. Sync across
* CPUs and for interrupts.
*/
__x.lo = readl(io_addr); /* mmio read */
if (unlikely((s32)(__x.hi ^ __x.lo) < 0))
*__m_cnt_hi =
__x.hi = (__x.hi ^ 0x80000000) + (__x.hi >> 31);
return __x.val;
}
Mathieu
> David
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2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 01/18] get_cycles() : kconfig HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 02/18] get_cycles() : x86 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 03/18] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 04/18] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 14:56 ` Josh Boyer
2008-11-07 18:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 05/18] get_cycles() : MIPS HAVE_GET_CYCLES_32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 06/18] Trace clock generic Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 07/18] Trace clock core Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:52 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 6:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 6:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 16:19 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 6:05 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 8:12 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 8:38 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 11:20 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 15:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 15:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 15:50 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:21 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:29 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 17:10 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:26 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:21 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:30 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-11-07 18:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-07 18:45 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:47 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:55 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:21 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 20:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:07 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:47 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:04 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-11-07 23:27 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 20:11 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 20:11 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 21:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 22:18 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 22:18 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 22:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 22:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:41 ` David Howells
2008-11-08 0:15 ` Russell King
2008-11-08 0:15 ` Russell King
2008-11-08 0:45 ` David Howells
2008-11-08 15:24 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-08 23:20 ` [PATCH] clarify usage expectations for cnt32_to_63() Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 2:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09 2:54 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 5:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 5:27 ` [PATCH v2] " Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 6:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09 13:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 13:43 ` Russell King
2008-11-09 13:43 ` Russell King
2008-11-09 16:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-10 4:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 4:42 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 21:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 21:58 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 23:15 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 23:22 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-11 0:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 18:28 ` [PATCH] convert cnt32_to_63 to inline Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 19:13 ` Russell King
2008-11-11 19:13 ` Russell King
2008-11-11 20:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 20:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:51 ` Russell King
2008-11-11 21:51 ` Russell King
2008-11-12 3:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-12 3:48 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 21:13 ` Russell King
2008-11-11 21:13 ` Russell King
2008-11-11 22:31 ` David Howells
2008-11-11 22:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-12 1:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 11:03 ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() David Howells
2008-11-07 11:03 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:18 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 23:55 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:59 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:55 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 19:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 19:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 20:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:04 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-08 0:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:50 ` David Howells
2008-11-08 0:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 11:51 ` David Howells
2008-11-09 14:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 14:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 16:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 20:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:27 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:36 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 20:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 21:22 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 09/18] Powerpc : Trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:23 ` [RFC patch 10/18] Sparc64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 5:45 ` David Miller
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