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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb()
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 12:17:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081107171703.GE22134@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8481.1226077497@redhat.com>

* David Howells (dhowells@redhat.com) wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca> wrote:
> 
> > First off, using this macro with get_cycles() is simply buggy, because the
> > macro expects _perfect_ order of timestamps, no skew whatsoever, or
> > otherwise time could jump.
> 
> Erm...  Why can't I pass it get_cycles()?  Are you saying that sched_clock()
> in MN10300 is wrong for it's use of get_cycles() with cnt32_to_63()?
> 

Yes. Do you think the synchronization of the cycles counters is
_perfect_ across CPUs so that there is no possible way whatsoever that
two cycle counter values appear to go backward between CPUs ? (also
taking in account delays in __m_cnt_hi write-back...)

As I showed in my previous example, if you are unlucky enough to hit the
spot where the cycle counters go backward at the time warp edge, time
will jump of 2^32, so about 4.29s at 1GHz.

> > 	__x.lo = readl(cnt_lo); /* mmio read */
> 
> readl() might insert an extra barrier instruction.  Not only that, io_addr
> must be unsigned long.

If we expect the only correct use-case to be with readl(), I don't see
the problem with added synchronization.

> 

Ah, right, then the parameters should be updated accordingly.

static inline u64 cnt32_to_63(unsigned long io_addr, u32 *__m_cnt_hi)
{
        union cnt32_to_63 __x;
        __x.hi = *__m_cnt_hi;   /* memory read for high bits internal state */
        rmb();                  /*
                                 * read high bits before low bits insures time
                                 * does not go backward. Sync across
                                 * CPUs and for interrupts.
                                 */
        __x.lo = readl(io_addr); /* mmio read */
        if (unlikely((s32)(__x.hi ^ __x.lo) < 0))
                *__m_cnt_hi =
                        __x.hi = (__x.hi ^ 0x80000000) + (__x.hi >> 31);
        return __x.val;
}

Mathieu

> David

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-07 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20081107052336.652868737@polymtl.ca>
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 01/18] get_cycles() : kconfig HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 02/18] get_cycles() : x86 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 03/18] get_cycles() : sparc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 04/18] get_cycles() : powerpc64 HAVE_GET_CYCLES Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 14:56   ` Josh Boyer
2008-11-07 18:14     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 05/18] get_cycles() : MIPS HAVE_GET_CYCLES_32 Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 06/18] Trace clock generic Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 07/18] Trace clock core Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:52   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  6:16     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  6:26       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:12         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 16:19           ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:16             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  6:05   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07  8:12     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07  8:38       ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 11:20         ` David Howells
2008-11-07 15:01           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 15:01             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 15:50             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:21               ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:29                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 17:10                   ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:26                     ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:00                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:21                         ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 18:30                           ` Harvey Harrison
2008-11-07 18:42                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:33                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 18:36                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-11-07 18:45                             ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 16:47               ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:55                 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:21                 ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-07 20:03                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 20:03                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 16:07             ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:47           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:04             ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:17               ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2008-11-07 23:27                 ` David Howells
2008-11-07 20:11             ` Russell King
2008-11-07 20:11               ` Russell King
2008-11-07 21:36               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 21:36                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 22:18                 ` Russell King
2008-11-07 22:18                   ` Russell King
2008-11-07 22:36                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 22:36                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:41                   ` David Howells
2008-11-08  0:15                     ` Russell King
2008-11-08  0:15                       ` Russell King
2008-11-08  0:45                       ` David Howells
2008-11-08 15:24                       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-08 23:20                         ` [PATCH] clarify usage expectations for cnt32_to_63() Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  2:25                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09  2:54                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  5:06                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  5:27                                 ` [PATCH v2] " Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09  6:48                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-09 13:34                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-09 13:43                                       ` Russell King
2008-11-09 13:43                                         ` Russell King
2008-11-09 16:22                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-10  4:20                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10  4:42                                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 21:34                                             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 21:58                                               ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:15                                                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 23:15                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-10 23:22                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-11-10 23:38                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-11  0:26                                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 18:28                                                       ` [PATCH] convert cnt32_to_63 to inline Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 19:13                                                         ` Russell King
2008-11-11 19:13                                                           ` Russell King
2008-11-11 20:11                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 20:11                                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:51                                                             ` Russell King
2008-11-11 21:51                                                               ` Russell King
2008-11-12  3:48                                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-12  3:48                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-11 21:00                                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-11 21:13                                                           ` Russell King
2008-11-11 21:13                                                             ` Russell King
2008-11-11 22:31                                                         ` David Howells
2008-11-11 22:37                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-12  1:13                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 11:03       ` [RFC patch 08/18] cnt32_to_63 should use smp_rmb() David Howells
2008-11-07 11:03         ` David Howells
2008-11-07 16:51         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:18           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 23:55             ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:59     ` David Howells
2008-11-07 10:55   ` David Howells
2008-11-07 17:09     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 17:33       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 17:33         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 19:18         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 19:32           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-11-07 20:02             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:45               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:54                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:04                   ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-08  0:34                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:16                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 23:50         ` David Howells
2008-11-08  0:55           ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 11:51             ` David Howells
2008-11-09 14:31               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 14:31                 ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-09 16:18               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:08       ` Steven Rostedt
2008-11-07 20:55         ` Paul E. McKenney
2008-11-07 21:27         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 20:36       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07 20:55         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07 21:22           ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 09/18] Powerpc : Trace clock Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:23 ` [RFC patch 10/18] Sparc64 " Mathieu Desnoyers
2008-11-07  5:45   ` David Miller

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