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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Bernhard Walle <bwalle@suse.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, crash-utility@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Turn CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM in sysctl dev.mem.restricted
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:03:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20081116080342.3d6c6976@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081116154541.1f196f1e@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:45:41 +0000
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
ules that circumvent that
> > protection.
> 
> With your patch I get crap in the kernel I don't need. In every kernel
> including those on memory tight devices like wireless routers that
> don't need it.
> 
> You are turd polishing, and what is needed is a shovel.
> 
> Even if you want to turd polish there are cleaner solutions. A process
> with CAP_SYS_RAWIO can cheerfully bypass any restriction you try and
> place

because it can load kernel modules?
or because it can bypass the iommu?

the point of the /dev/mem restrictions is to not allow things you know
you don't need, while still allowing X to function where it can access
the crap it does. Now in Bernhard's case he DOES need them, so he
shouldn't use the restrictions.

> There are proper ways to deal with X, modern video cards and modern
> security models. They involve using framebuffer mappings off the PCI
> device node itself and DRI.
> 
when X has this for all hw that matters /dev/mem could go away for the
people who then no longer have any need for it.


-- 
Arjan van de Ven 	Intel Open Source Technology Centre
For development, discussion and tips for power savings, 
visit http://www.lesswatts.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-16 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-16 14:47 Turn CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM in sysctl dev.mem.restricted Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 14:47 ` [PATCH 1/3] Unify devmem_is_allowed across architectures Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 14:47 ` [PATCH 2/3] Add dev.mem.restricted sysctl Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:07   ` Willy Tarreau
2008-11-16 14:47 ` [PATCH 3/3] Remove CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:09   ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:09     ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:21     ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:46       ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:46         ` Alan Cox
2008-11-17 13:57       ` David Howells
2008-11-16 15:07 ` Turn CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM in sysctl dev.mem.restricted Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:07   ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:20   ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 15:45     ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:45       ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 16:03       ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2008-11-16 16:09         ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 16:09           ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 16:19         ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 16:11       ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 17:03         ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 17:03           ` Alan Cox
2008-11-16 15:39 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 15:39   ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 15:56   ` Bernhard Walle
2008-11-16 16:06     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-11-16 20:32   ` H. Peter Anvin

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