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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	tytso@mit.edu, Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>,
	linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James.Bottomley@suse.de, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [git patches] xfs and block fixes for virtually indexed arches
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:33:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091219183305.GA10568@linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912170928310.15740@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:42:15AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> 
> I also think that the changes to bio_map_kernel() and bio_map_kern_endio() 
> are not just "fundamentally ugly", I think they are made worse by the fact 
> that it's not even done "right". You both flush the virtual caches before 
> the IO and invalidate after - when the real pattern should be that you 
> flush it before a write, and invalidate it after a read.
> 
> And I really think that would be all much more properly done at the 
> _caller_ level, not by the BIO layer.
> 
> You must have some locking and allocation etc logic at the caller anyway, 
> why doesn't _that_ level just do the flushing or invalidation?

And then there are certain types of caches that need invalidation before
_and_ after a DMA transaction as a workaround for a processor being
grossly abused in a system that it should not be used in.  Basically the
issue is that falsly speculated stores may dirty caches.

  Ralf

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-19 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091216043618.GB9104@hera.kernel.org>
2009-12-17 13:22 ` [git patches] xfs and block fixes for virtually indexed arches Kyle McMartin
2009-12-17 13:22   ` Kyle McMartin
2009-12-17 13:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-17 16:16   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-17 16:30     ` tytso
2009-12-17 16:46       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-17 16:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-17 17:07         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-17 17:07           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-17 17:42           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-17 17:51             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-17 17:51               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-17 18:08             ` Russell King
2009-12-17 18:08               ` Russell King
2009-12-17 18:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-17 18:17                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-19 18:33             ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2009-12-19 18:33               ` Ralf Baechle
2009-12-21 17:14               ` James Bottomley
2009-12-17 17:39         ` tytso
2009-12-17 17:39           ` tytso
2009-12-17 17:51           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-17 19:36             ` Jens Axboe
2009-12-17 19:36               ` Jens Axboe
2009-12-17 23:57               ` James Bottomley
2009-12-17 23:57                 ` James Bottomley
2009-12-18  1:00                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-12-18  2:44                   ` Dave Chinner
2009-12-18  2:44                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-12-18  3:51                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-12-18  3:51                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-12-18  7:10                     ` James Bottomley
2009-12-18  7:08                   ` James Bottomley
2009-12-18  9:34                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-12-18 10:01                       ` James Bottomley
2009-12-18 10:01                         ` James Bottomley
2009-12-18 10:24                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-12-18 10:30                           ` James Bottomley
2009-12-18 12:00                     ` Dave Chinner
2009-12-18 12:00                       ` Dave Chinner
2009-12-18  0:21           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-12-18 14:17             ` tytso
2009-12-18 14:17               ` tytso
2009-12-21  8:53               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2009-12-17 17:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-17 17:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-17 17:33         ` tytso
2009-12-17 17:33           ` tytso

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