From: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] pio-mapping: Add ARM support for the PIO mapping API
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:33:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100208173353.GD29551@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1265649649.6289.19.camel@mulgrave.site>
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 11:20:49AM -0600, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 16:54 +0000, Russell King wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 04:10:21PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > The pio_data_direction could be dropped and use the DMA one. We could
> > > also use pio_kmap_read/pio_kmap_write or similar but we have to triple
> > > the number of functions, so I prefer the additional argument.
> >
> > Do we need to do anything for reading a buffer for PIO _out_ to the
> > device? My understanding is that this has never been a problem.
>
> Before outbound PIO, you need to flush all the aliases before sending.
> However, this should *already* be done in the block path, so for block
> I/O it should be unnecessary, yes. All we need to do on the TO_DEVICE
> case should be map and unmap the page if it's highmem.
>
> > The only problem I'm aware of is where PIO writes to the kernel
> > mapping of a lowmem pages; highmem pages need the data flushed out
> > of the temporary atomic kmap mapping anyway.
>
> Not quite.
Yes quite; I disagree.
> in the PIO FROM_DEVICE case, we've created a dirty kernel
> alias by reading the data from the device and writing it via the kernel
> mapping.
Here, I agree 100%.
> We have to flush that alias whether it exists as a highmem
> mapping or as a simple offset mapping before userspace will see the
> data.
And this is where things get more complicated. If you have a CPU
where aliases exist for different virtual addresses, and you have
highmem, when you unmap the highmem mapping, you have to flush the
dirty mapping.
That flush is there today.
The problem case is where you have a lowmem page cache page which
you're writing into - this is not kmapped, and so on kunmap*, there
is no flush.
> The block API assumes the FROM_DEVICE transfer went straight from
> the device into main memory and didn't go via the kernel alias, so the
> block use case won't flush it.
50% correct. As I point out above, with an aliasing cache + highmem,
kunmap has to already do cache maintainence. To do additional
cache maintainence would be a pure duplication of what kunmap is
already doing.
> Additionally, for architectures that don't promise no movein on a
> flushed but untouched page (unlike parisc, which does), we might need to
> invalidate all the user aliases before passing the page back to kill any
> stale data that may have been speculated into the alias caches).
For a read-in, there should be zero user mappings of that page.
Do we really allow users to map a page before it's been written with
the corresponding data from disk? What if it previously contained the
data from the passwd or login program? I'd be a nice security hole if
we did allow this to happen.
For a user mapping to exist, we receive a fault. If we don't have the
data in the page cache, we allocate a page and issue a request into the
fs layers to bring the data in from a block device, and wait for the
page to be up to date. Only when it is up to date do we map the page
into userspace.
It is my understanding that the situation that you describe can never
occur.
--
Russell King
Linux kernel 2.6 ARM Linux - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
maintainer of:
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-08 17:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-05 16:31 [RFC PATCH 0/4] PIO drivers and cache coherency Catalin Marinas
2010-02-05 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] pio-mapping: Add generic support for PIO mapping API Catalin Marinas
2010-02-05 16:31 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] pio-mapping: Add ARM support for the " Catalin Marinas
2010-02-05 16:43 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-05 17:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-05 17:36 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-05 18:02 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 16:10 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 16:54 ` Russell King
2010-02-08 17:20 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-08 17:33 ` Russell King [this message]
2010-02-08 19:07 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-08 18:02 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] pio-mapping: Add ARM support for the PIOmapping API Catalin Marinas
2010-02-08 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2010-02-08 17:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] pio-mapping: Add ARM support for the PIO mapping API James Bottomley
2010-02-09 18:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2010-02-17 9:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-17 20:04 ` Russell King
2010-02-17 20:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-02-05 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] pio-mapping: Use the PIO mapping API in libata-sff.c Catalin Marinas
2010-02-05 16:32 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] pio-mapping: Use the PIO mapping API in the ISP1760 HCD driver Catalin Marinas
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