From: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/14] move user_enable_single_step & co prototypes to linux/ptrace.h
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:51:25 -0800 (PST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100208195125.27ADD1AF@magilla.sf.frob.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Christoph Hellwig's message of Tuesday, 2 February 2010 19:57:55 +0100 <20100202185755.GA3630@lst.de>
The original thought there was that user_enable_single_step() et al might
well be only an instruction or three on a sane machine (as if we have any
of those!), and since there is only one call site inlining would be
beneficial. But I agree that there is no strong reason to care about
inlining it.
As to the arch changes, there is only one thought I'd add to the record.
It was always my thinking that for an arch where PTRACE_SINGLESTEP does
text-modifying breakpoint insertion, user_enable_single_step() should not
be provided. That is, arch_has_single_step()=>true means that there is an
arch facility with "pure" semantics that does not have any unexpected side
effects. Inserting a breakpoint might do very unexpected strange things in
multi-threaded situations. Aside from that, it is a peculiar side effect
that user_{enable,disable}_single_step() should cause COW de-sharing of
text pages and so forth. For PTRACE_SINGLESTEP, all these peculiarities
are the status quo ante for that arch, so having arch_ptrace() itself do
those is one thing. But for building other things in the future, it is
nicer to have a uniform "pure" semantics that arch-independent code can
expect.
OTOH, all such arch issues are really up to the arch maintainer. As of
today, there is nothing but ptrace using user_enable_single_step() et al so
it's a distinction without a practical difference. If/when there are other
facilities that use user_enable_single_step() and might care, the affected
arch's can revisit the question when someone cares about the quality of the
arch support for said new facility.
So, with those caveats preserved for posteriority, all these changes
are OK with me.
Thanks,
Roland
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-08 19:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-02 18:57 [PATCH 1/14] move user_enable_single_step & co prototypes to linux/ptrace.h Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:58 ` [PATCH 2/14] alpha: use generic ptrace_resume code Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-03 4:35 ` Matt Turner
2010-02-02 18:58 ` [PATCH 3/14] arm: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:58 ` [PATCH 4/14] avr32: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-03 3:17 ` Haavard Skinnemoen
2010-02-03 8:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-03 19:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-02-03 19:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:59 ` [PATCH 5/14] blackfin: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 20:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-03 19:36 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-03 19:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-11 9:43 ` [PATCH 0/2] Blackfin: " Mike Frysinger
2010-02-11 9:43 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-11 9:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] Blackfin: initial tracehook support Mike Frysinger
2010-02-11 9:43 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-11 20:46 ` Roland McGrath
2010-02-11 23:54 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-12 3:24 ` Roland McGrath
2010-02-12 4:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-12 4:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-12 15:24 ` Oleg Nesterov
[not found] ` <8bd0f97a1002112033m5805d4eco3add4d5625e71e9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-12 20:44 ` Roland McGrath
2010-02-12 20:44 ` Roland McGrath
2010-02-13 9:41 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-15 7:36 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-15 20:07 ` Roland McGrath
2010-02-11 9:43 ` [PATCH 2/2] Blackfin: use generic ptrace_resume code Mike Frysinger
2010-02-11 9:43 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-02-02 18:59 ` [PATCH 6/14] h8300: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:59 ` [PATCH 7/14] m68knommu: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-03 6:54 ` Greg Ungerer
2010-02-02 18:59 ` [PATCH 8/14] microblaze: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-03 11:00 ` Michal Simek
2010-02-02 18:59 ` [PATCH 9/14] mips: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 18:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 19:19 ` Ralf Baechle
2010-02-02 19:00 ` [PATCH 10/14] um: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 19:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 19:00 ` [PATCH 11/14] xtensa: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 19:00 ` [PATCH 12/14] cris arch-v10: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 19:00 ` [PATCH, RFC 13/14] cris arch-v32: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 19:00 ` [PATCH, RFC 14/14] m32r: " Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-02 19:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-03 8:42 ` [PATCH 1/14] move user_enable_single_step & co prototypes to linux/ptrace.h Mike Frysinger
2010-02-03 8:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-08 10:50 ` David Howells
2010-02-08 19:51 ` Roland McGrath [this message]
2010-02-10 22:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
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