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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Nicholas Miell <nmiell@comcast.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	mingo@elte.hu, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org,
	dvhltc@us.ibm.com, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC patch] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v9)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:23:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100222212321.GA2573@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B82CF1A.3010501@nortel.com>

* Chris Friesen (cfriesen@nortel.com) wrote:
> On 02/12/2010 04:46 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> 
> > Editorial question: 
> > 
> > This synchronization only takes care of threads using the current process memory
> > map. It should not be used to synchronize accesses performed on memory maps
> > shared between different processes. Is that a limitation we can live with ?
> 
> It makes sense for an initial version.  It would be unfortunate if this
> were a permanent limitation, since using separate processes with
> explicit shared memory is a useful way to mitigate memory trampler issues.
> 
> If we were going to allow that, it might make sense to add an address
> range such that only those processes which have mapped that range would
> execute the barrier.  Come to think of it, it might be possible to use
> this somehow to avoid having to execute the barrier on *all* threads
> within a process.

The extensible system call mandatory and optional flags will allow this kind of
improvement later on if this appears to be needed. It will also allow user-space
to detect if later kernels support these new features or not. But meanwhile I
think it's good to start with this implementation that covers 99.99% of
use-cases I can currently think of (ok, well, maybe I'm just unimaginative) ;)

Thanks,

Mathieu

> 
> Chris

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-22 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-12 22:46 [RFC patch] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v9) Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-02-12 22:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-02-15 19:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-02-16  0:57   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-22 18:38 ` Chris Friesen
2010-02-22 21:23   ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2010-02-24  9:10     ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-24 15:22       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-02-25  5:33         ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-25 16:53           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-02-25 17:25             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-25 17:51               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-02-25 18:00                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2010-02-25 18:20                   ` Add this to tip (was: Re: [RFC patch] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v9)) Steven Rostedt
2010-02-25 18:08                 ` [RFC patch] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v9) Steven Rostedt
2010-02-26  5:08             ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-26  5:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-02-24 17:29       ` Darren Hart
2010-02-25  5:22         ` Nick Piggin

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