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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel@teksavvy.com, drepper@redhat.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, munroesj@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: 64-syscall args on 32-bit vs syscall()
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:44:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100315134449.GB1653@linux-mips.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1268630313.2335.2.camel@pasglop>

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:18:33PM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 22:06 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> > From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
> > Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:48:13 +1100
> > 
> > > As it is, any 32-bit app using syscall() on any of the syscalls that
> > > takes 64-bit arguments will be broken, unless the app itself breaks up
> > > the argument, but the the order of the hi and lo part is different
> > > between BE and LE architectures ;-)
> > 
> > I think it is even different on the same endian architectures,
> > f.e. mips I think.

MIPS passes arguments in the endian order that is low/high for little
endian rsp high/low for big endian.

> > There is no way to do this without some arch specific code
> > to handle things properly, really.
> 
> Right, but to what extent ? IE. do we always need the callers using
> syscall() directly to know it all, or can we to some extent handle some
> of it inside glibc ?
> 
> For example, if powerpc glibc is fixed so that syscall() takes a 64-bit
> first argument (or calls via some macro to add a dummy 32-bit argument),
> the register alignment will be preserved, and things will work just
> fine.
> 
> IE. It may not fix all problems with all archs, but in this case, it
> will fix the common cases for powerpc at least :-) And any other arch
> that has the exact same alignment problem.
> 
> Or is there any good reason -not- to do that in glibc ?

Syscall is most often used for new syscalls that have no syscall stub in
glibc yet, so the user of syscall() encodes this ABI knowledge.  If at a
later stage syscall() is changed to have this sort of knowledge we break
the API.  This is something only the kernel can get right.

  Ralf

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-15 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-15  4:48 64-syscall args on 32-bit vs syscall() Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15  4:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15  5:06 ` David Miller
2010-03-15  5:18   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15  5:54     ` David Miller
2010-03-15 20:22       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15 13:44     ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2010-03-15 15:13       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-15 16:00         ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-03-15 19:00           ` David Miller
2010-03-15 19:41             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-15 20:35               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15 20:41                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-16 21:56                 ` Steven Munroe
2010-03-17  0:31                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17  0:31                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17  5:52                     ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-03-17  8:56                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17  9:14                         ` Ulrich Drepper
2010-03-17 10:13                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17  9:18                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-17 10:18                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17 18:30                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-17 20:35                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17 20:53                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-03-17 22:58                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-17 22:58                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-18 16:08                                 ` Steven Munroe
2010-03-18 16:21                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-03-18 16:21                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-03-18 17:03                                     ` Steven Munroe
2010-03-18 21:18                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-19  1:22                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15 20:27       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15 15:03 ` Steven Munroe
2010-03-15 20:32   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15 15:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15 20:33   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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