From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
yinghai@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, hpa@zytor.com,
jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/20] early_res: seperate common memmap func from e820.c to fw_memmap.c
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:20:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100322212013.GB25254@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1269291846.8599.81.camel@pasglop>
* Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 14:05 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org> wrote:
> >
> > > And I don't see the point of moving the x86 e820 stuff into the kernel
> > > directory. [...]
> >
> > I dont see the point of that either - that is a mistake. e820 is an x86 bios
> > call and we shouldnt name a generic mechanism after that. e820 is absolutely
> > messy and has no place anywhere beyond x86.
> >
> > The main technical argument i see is 'early_res versus LMB'. Even there i'd
> > prefer LMB from a technical quality POV.
>
> Then we have no argument. The point is, we object to that fw_memmap/e820
> stuff taking over for non-x86 architectures. We aren't saying that x86
> -must- move to LMB, but if the wish is to have a common implementation in
> generic code accross all archs, -then- we object to it being e820.
Ok, just in case i wasnt clear enough in my first reply (and i guess your mail
means i wasnt): that whole-sale move of e820 into kernel/fw_memmap.c is a
total non-starter as far as i'm concerned.
And i kind of like the 'logical memory block' name - it is more intuitive than
'early_res' (which was always a misnomer IMO, just couldnt find a better name
for it and it stuck with us).
So no arguments from me at all about the code quality aspects - i just wanted
to highlight the huge amount of non-trivial work Yinghai has invested into
this already, with little external help, and that if possible it would be nice
to minimize the upsetting of related x86 code if possible. Please help him out
with more specific suggestions about how the two memory allocation spaces
could be unified best, to serve the needs of all these architectures - if you
have some spare time.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-22 21:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-21 7:13 [PATCH 00/20] x86: early_res and irq_desc Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 01/20] x86: add find_e820_area_node Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 02/20] x86: add get_centaur_ram_top Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 03/20] x86: make e820 to be static Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 04/20] x86: use wake_system_ram_range instead of e820_any_mapped in agp path Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 05/20] x86: make e820 to be initdata Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 06/20] early_res: seperate common memmap func from e820.c to fw_memmap.c Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 2:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 2:46 ` Questions about SMP bootup control Zhu, Yijun (NSN - CN/Beijing)
2010-03-22 2:46 ` Zhu, Yijun (NSN - CN/Beijing)
2010-03-22 3:29 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-22 7:45 ` Zhu, Yijun (NSN - CN/Beijing)
2010-03-22 3:56 ` [PATCH 06/20] early_res: seperate common memmap func from e820.c to fw_memmap.c Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 4:00 ` David Miller
2010-03-22 4:28 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 4:33 ` David Miller
2010-03-22 9:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-22 9:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-22 11:30 ` Paul Mackerras
2010-03-22 13:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-22 13:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-22 21:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 21:20 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-22 21:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 22:14 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 18:18 ` [PATCH 06/20] early_res: seperate common memmap func from e820.c to fw_memmap.cy Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-22 19:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-22 20:07 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 21:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 22:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-22 22:25 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 22:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-22 23:41 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-23 0:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-23 1:04 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-23 1:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-03-23 6:01 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-23 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 9:02 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-23 9:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-24 4:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-24 4:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-24 5:54 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-24 7:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-24 18:37 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-24 9:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-24 9:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-24 4:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-24 6:05 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 20:47 ` [PATCH 06/20] early_res: seperate common memmap func from e820.c to fw_memmap.c Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 20:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-22 21:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-23 8:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-03-23 11:16 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-24 4:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-24 5:47 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-03-22 21:57 ` Paul Mackerras
2010-03-22 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 21:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 21:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 5:12 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 6:09 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 7:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 07/20] irq: move some interrupt arch_* functions into struct irq_chip Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 08/20] x86: fix out of order of gsi - full Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 09/20] x86: set nr_irqs_gsi only in probe_nr_irqs_gsi Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 10/20] x86: kill smpboot_hooks.h Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 11/20] x86: use vector_desc instead of vector_irq Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 12/20] genericirq: change ack/mask in irq_chip to take irq_desc instead of irq -- x86 and core Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 13/20] genericirq: change ack/mask in irq_chip to take irq_desc instead of irq -- other arch Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 14/20] genericirq: add set_irq_desc_chip/data Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 15/20] x86/iommu/dmar: update iommu/inter_remapping to use desc Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 16/20] x86: use num_processors for possible cpus Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 17/20] x86: make 32bit apic flat to physflat switch like 64bit Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 18/20] x86: remove arch_probe_nr_irqs Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 19/20] x86/pci: ioh new version read all at same time Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 16:16 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-22 16:16 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-22 19:32 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 19:32 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` [PATCH 20/20] x86/pci: add mmconf range into e820 for when it is from MSR with amd faml0h Yinghai Lu
2010-03-21 7:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2010-03-22 2:35 ` [PATCH 00/20] x86: early_res and irq_desc Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-22 3:26 ` Yinghai Lu
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