From: Scott Lurndal <scott.lurndal@3leafsystems.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] X86: Optimise fls(), ffs() and fls64()
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:37:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100326173730.GA27489@pendragon.3leafnetworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003261005490.3721@i5.linux-foundation.org>
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:23:46AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Mar 2010, David Howells wrote:
> >
> > fls(N), ffs(N) and fls64(N) can be optimised on x86/x86_64. Currently they
> > perform checks against N being 0 before invoking the BSR/BSF instruction, or
> > use a CMOV instruction afterwards. Either the check involves a conditional
> > jump which we'd like to avoid, or a CMOV, which we'd also quite like to avoid.
> >
> > Instead, we can make use of the fact that BSR/BSF doesn't modify its output
> > register if its input is 0. By preloading the output with -1 and incrementing
> > the result, we achieve the desired result without the need for a conditional
> > check.
>
> This is totally incorrect.
>
> Where did you find that "doesn't modify its output" thing? It's not true.
> The truth is that the destination is undefined. Just read the dang Intel
> documentation, it's very clearly stated right there.
While this is true for the current (253666-031US) Intel documentation,
the AMD documentation (rev 3.14) for the same instruction states that the
destination register is unchanged (as opposed to Intel's undefined).
I wonder if Intel's EM64 stuff makes this more deterministic, perhaps
David's implementation would work for x86_64 only?
scott
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-26 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <4BACCB4E.7010108@draigBrady.com>
2010-03-26 14:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] X86: Optimise fls(), ffs() and fls64() David Howells
2010-03-26 14:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] Adjust the comment on get_order() to describe the size==0 case David Howells
2010-03-26 14:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] Optimise get_order() David Howells
2010-03-26 14:42 ` David Howells
2010-03-26 17:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] X86: Optimise fls(), ffs() and fls64() Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26 17:37 ` Scott Lurndal [this message]
2010-03-26 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-06 13:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-04-06 14:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26 17:42 ` David Howells
2010-03-26 17:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26 17:58 ` Ralf Baechle
2010-03-26 18:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-26 18:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-04-06 13:30 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-04-14 11:49 ` David Howells
2010-04-14 14:30 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15 8:48 ` David Howells
2010-04-15 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15 11:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-26 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-04-14 13:13 ` David Howells
2010-01-13 19:39 David Howells
2010-01-13 20:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2010-01-13 21:59 ` David Howells
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