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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, willy@linux.intel.com,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2]: atomic_t: Remove volatile from atomic_t definition
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:03:27 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100519130327.GW2516@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005170800100.4195@i5.linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 08:01:54AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 17 May 2010, Anton Blanchard wrote:
> > 
> > It turns out this bad code is a result of us defining atomic_t as a
> > volatile int.
> 
> Heh. Ok, as you point out in the commit message, I obviously agree with 
> this patch. "volatile" on data is evil, with the possible exception of 
> "jiffies" type things.
> 
> So applied.

I wonder, Linus, is there a good reason to use volatile for these at
all?

I asked you about it quite a while back, and IIRC you said it might
be OK to remove volatile from bitops, provided that callers were audited
(ie. that nobody used bitops on volatile variables).

For atomic_read it shouldn't matter unless gcc is *really* bad at it.
Ah, for atomic_read, the required semantic is surely ACCESS_ONCE, so
that's where the volatile is needed? (maybe it would be clearer to
explicitly use ACCESS_ONCE?)

The case I was thinking about for bitops was for multiple non-atomic
bitops, which would be nice to combine. In reality a lot of performance
critical code (like page allocator) bites the bullet and does the
open-coded bitwise ops. But it would be nice if that just worked for
__set_bit / __clear_bit too.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-19 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17  4:33 [PATCH 1/2]: atomic_t: Cast to volatile when accessing atomic variables Anton Blanchard
2010-05-17  4:34 ` [PATCH 2/2]: atomic_t: Remove volatile from atomic_t definition Anton Blanchard
2010-05-17  8:58   ` Heiko Carstens
2010-05-17 15:01   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-17 20:13     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-17 20:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 13:03     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-05-19 14:55       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-19 15:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-19 19:54         ` David Miller
2010-05-19 22:50           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-21  5:27             ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-21  5:54               ` David Miller
2010-05-21  6:06                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-21  6:10                   ` David Miller
2010-05-21  6:44                     ` Eric Dumazet

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