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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Eric B Munson <emunson@mgebm.net>,
	mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	ryanh@linux.vnet.ibm.com, aliguori@us.ibm.com,
	jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com, levinsasha928@gmail.com,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5 V5] Avoid soft lockup message when KVM is stopped by host
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 10:18:10 -0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111214121810.GC18317@amt.cnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EE4A4DA.90100@redhat.com>

On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 02:40:58PM +0200, Dor Laor wrote:
> >>When a guest kernel is stopped by the host hypervisor it can look like a soft
> >>lockup to the guest kernel.  This false warning can mask later soft lockup
> >>warnings which may be real.  This patch series adds a method for a host
> >>hypervisor to communicate to a guest kernel that it is being stopped.  The
> >>final patch in the series has the watchdog check this flag when it goes to
> >>issue a soft lockup warning and skip the warning if the guest knows it was
> >>stopped.
> >>
> >>It was attempted to solve this in Qemu, but the side effects of saving and
> >>restoring the clock and tsc for each vcpu put the wall clock of the guest behind
> >>by the amount of time of the pause.  This forces a guest to have ntp running
> >>in order to keep the wall clock accurate.
> 
> Guests need to run NTP regardless, not only the virtualization layer
> add some skew, the physical world is not that perfect.
> btw: traditional NTP client won't sync the time automatically if the
> diff is > 0.5%.
> 
> >
> >Having this controlled from userspace means it doesn't work for SIGSTOP
> >or for long scheduling delays.  What about doing this automatically
> >based on preempt notifiers?
> >
> >
> 
> Isn't it solved by steal time?

No.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-14 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-05 20:18 [PATCH 0/5 V5] Avoid soft lockup message when KVM is stopped by host Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:18 ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19 ` [PATCH 1/5 V5] Add flag to indicate that a vm was stopped by the host Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19   ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19 ` [PATCH 2/5 V5] Add functions to check if the host has stopped the vm Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19   ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-07 14:31   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-08 15:23     ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-08 15:23       ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-14 12:11       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-14 12:11         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-14 14:37         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 17:11           ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-14 17:11             ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-14 17:30             ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 17:57               ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19 ` [PATCH 3/5 V5] Add ioctl for KVMCLOCK_GUEST_STOPPED Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19   ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-07 14:34   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-08 15:25     ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19 ` [PATCH 4/5 V5] Add generic stubs for kvm stop check functions Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19   ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-07 14:36   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-07 14:36     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-08 15:27     ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19 ` [PATCH 5/5 V5] Add check for suspended vm in softlockup detector Eric B Munson
2011-12-05 20:19   ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-07 14:38   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-07 14:38     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-07 14:41 ` [PATCH 0/5 V5] Avoid soft lockup message when KVM is stopped by host Avi Kivity
2011-12-08 15:19   ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-14 15:08     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 15:08       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 17:58       ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-14 17:58         ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-15  9:48         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-15 18:53           ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-19 13:01             ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 13:01               ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-11 12:40   ` Dor Laor
2011-12-14 12:18     ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2011-12-14 12:18       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-14 12:16   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-14 12:16     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-14 14:39     ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:39       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:49       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-12-14 15:01         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-14 14:54       ` Eric B Munson
2011-12-14 18:21       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-15 10:21         ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-16  9:31           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-19 12:59             ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 16:11               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-19 16:11                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-19 17:50                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-19 17:50                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-12-22  9:59                   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-08 11:34 ` Amit Shah
2011-12-15 11:55   ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 12:52     ` Amit Shah
2011-12-19 12:52       ` Amit Shah
2011-12-19 12:59       ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 17:59         ` Amit Shah
2011-12-22  9:18           ` Dor Laor

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