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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME, arch/*/*/*signal*.c and all such
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:15:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120427231526.GP6871@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120427212729.652542C0AF@topped-with-meat.com>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:27:29PM -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
> The expectation was that every arch would eventually switch on
> CORE_DUMP_USE_REGSET.  (Looks like so far 12 do and so ~16 don't.)
> Certainly avoiding the overhead of user_regset for core dumping is not
> worth any new code complexity or extra arch hooks, since that overhead
> even on the worst-case arch (ia64) has got to be marginal in comparison
> to all the memory-copying and i/o going on.  For imagined potential
> tracing/fancier-debugging cases that might be used in high-throughput
> ways the question would be different, but such uses still remain to be
> implemented.

BTW, speaking of tracehook - you do realize that there are some
architectures where check for user_mode() in do_signal() is not
useless?  I.e. there do_notify_resume() _can_ be called when
returning to kernel mode.  And that'll get you tracehook_notify_resume()
called when you probably wouldn't want it to be; key_replace_session_keyring()
call is not desirable in that situation and the stuff Oleg wants
to add in tracehook_notify_resume() won't be happy with that either...

I think all such architectures need that check lifted to do_notify_resume()
(and the rest needs it killed, of course).  Including x86, by the look
of it - we _probably_ can't get there with TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME and
!user_mode(regs), but I'm not entirely sure of that.  arm is in about the
same situation; alpha, ppc{32,64}, sparc{32,64} and m68k really can't get
there like that (they all check it in the asm glue).  mips probably might,
unless I'm misreading their ret_from_fork()...  Fun.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-27 23:15 UTC|newest]

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2012-04-23 18:01                   ` [RFC] TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME, arch/*/*/*signal*.c and all such Al Viro
2012-04-23 18:01                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-23 18:37                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-24  7:26                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-25  3:06                       ` Al Viro
2012-04-25  3:06                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 12:37                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 12:50                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 13:03                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 13:32                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 13:32                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 14:52                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 15:46                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 16:10                                     ` Al Viro
2012-04-25 17:02                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 17:51                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-26  7:15                                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-26  7:25                                             ` David Miller
2012-04-26 13:52                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 14:31                                               ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-26 14:31                                                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-26 13:22                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 18:37                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-26 23:19                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 17:24                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-27 17:24                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-27 17:54                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-05-02 10:37                               ` Matt Fleming
2012-05-02 14:14                                 ` Al Viro
2012-05-02 14:14                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 18:45                             ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 19:14                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-04-27 19:34                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 22:51                                   ` Al Viro
2012-04-30  6:39                                     ` Greg Ungerer
2012-04-27 19:42                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 20:20                               ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 21:12                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-27 21:27                                   ` Roland McGrath
2012-04-27 23:15                                     ` Al Viro [this message]
2012-04-27 23:32                                       ` Al Viro
2012-04-29  4:12                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-29  4:12                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-30  8:06                                           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-04-27 23:50                                       ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 18:51                                         ` [PATCH] arch/tile: avoid calling do_signal() after fork from a kernel thread Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28 20:55                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 20:55                                             ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 21:46                                             ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  0:55                                               ` Al Viro
2012-04-28 18:51                                                 ` [PATCH v2] arch/tile: fix up some issues in calling do_work_pending() Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  3:49                                                 ` [PATCH] arch/tile: avoid calling do_signal() after fork from a kernel thread Chris Metcalf
2012-04-29  3:49                                                   ` Chris Metcalf
2012-04-28  2:42                                       ` [RFC] TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME, arch/*/*/*signal*.c and all such Al Viro
2012-04-28  3:32                                         ` Al Viro
2012-04-28  3:36                                           ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 16:33                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 16:18                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 18:05                                           ` Al Viro
2012-05-01  4:31                                             ` Al Viro
2012-05-01  5:06                                               ` Mike Frysinger
2012-05-01  5:52                                                 ` Al Viro
2012-05-02 17:24                                                   ` Al Viro
2012-05-02 18:30                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 16:41                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 16:41                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-29 18:09                                 ` Al Viro
2012-04-29 18:25                                   ` Oleg Nesterov

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