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From: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Simon Baatz <gmbnomis@gmail.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/31] arm64: Cache maintenance routines
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 23:55:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120912215553.GA17393@schnuecks.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120912092954.GA21823@arm.com>

Hi Catalin,

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 10:29:54AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> 
> > > +void __flush_dcache_page(struct address_space *mapping, struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > +     __flush_dcache_area(page_address(page), PAGE_SIZE);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +void __sync_icache_dcache(pte_t pte)
> > > +{
> > > +     unsigned long pfn;
> > > +     struct page *page;
> > > +
> > > +     pfn = pte_pfn(pte);
> > > +     if (!pfn_valid(pfn))
> > > +             return;
> > > +
> > > +     page = pfn_to_page(pfn);
> > > +     if (!test_and_set_bit(PG_dcache_clean, &page->flags))
> > > +             __flush_dcache_page(NULL, page);
> > > +     __flush_icache_all();
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +/*
> > > + * Ensure cache coherency between kernel mapping and userspace mapping of this
> > > + * page.
> > > + */
> > > +void flush_dcache_page(struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > +     struct address_space *mapping;
> > > +
> > > +     /*
> > > +      * The zero page is never written to, so never has any dirty cache
> > > +      * lines, and therefore never needs to be flushed.
> > > +      */
> > > +     if (page == ZERO_PAGE(0))
> > > +             return;
> > > +
> > > +     mapping = page_mapping(page);
> > > +
> > > +     if (mapping && !mapping_mapped(mapping))
> > > +             clear_bit(PG_dcache_clean, &page->flags);
> > > +     else {
> > > +             __flush_dcache_page(mapping, page);
> > > +             if (mapping)
> > > +                     __flush_icache_all();
> > 
> > 
> > Is this necessary to ensure I/D coherency? Then, I would have
> > expected
> > 
> >                 if (mapping) {
> >                         __flush_dcache_page(mapping, page);
> >                         __flush_icache_all();
> >                 }
> > 
> > similar to __sync_icache_dcache() above.
> 
> We don't want to do additional flushing if !mapping_mapped() as the page
> isn't mapped in user space. In this case we defer the flushing until
> __sync_icache_dcache().
> 
> The other case is for anonymous pages where mapping == NULL. Here we
> don't defer the D-cache flush and do it directly. The I-cache, if
> needed, is handled later in __sync_icache_dcache(). This was based on
> the idea that this case is mainly for the args/env page which is mapped
> shortly after anyway, so not worth deferring. On AArch64, I don't think
> it makes any difference. Maybe a slight improvement (at least in
> clarity) in flush_dcache_page():
> 
> 	if (mapping && mapping_mapped(mapping)) {
> 		__flush_dcache_page(page);
> 		__flush_icache_all();
> 		set_bit(PG_dcache_clean, &page->flags);
> 	} else {
> 		clear_bit(PG_dcache_clean, &page->flags);
> 	}
> 
> In this case the anonymous page flushing is deferred to
> __sync_icache_dcache().

Yes, I think this is much clearer. It makes clear that the D-cache
flush is done to avoid I/D incoherencies.  Previously, the obvious
question was "Why do we flush only the D-cache in some situations
given that it essentially behaves like a PIPT cache?" (the motivation
for this became only clear to me after your explanation.)

However, the reason why this was an obvious question for me is
interesting: I think the main use case you had in mind does not
happen since about five years (since commit b6a2fe, "mm: variable
length argument support").  And I had a completely different main use
case in mind.

I reckon that the use case you refer to is the use in fs/exec.c? 
Copying arg/env was changed in the commit mentioned above.  This also
changed the use of flush_dcache_page() (which is not supposed to
handle anon pages) into flush_kernel_dcache_page() (which is supposed
to handle kernel modified user pages, i.e.  also anon pages).

Nevertheless, the __flush_dcache_page(mapping, page) in the
mapping==NULL case is absoluty necessary for aliasing D-caches on arm
for the use case I had in mind (which does not apply to arm64 and
thus my question).

In case of direct I/O (and probably also in other cases like SG_IO)
the block layer will see pages from get_user_pages() directly, i.e.
also anonymous pages. Many drivers (especially emulated storage
drivers like dm-crypt) use flush_dcache_page() after modifying a
page. Although flush_dcache_page() is not even supposed to handle
anonymous pages, it flushes the kernel mapping of the page because of
this code line and everything is well on aliasing D-caches.

Ironically, flush_kernel_dcache_page(), which is specifically
designed to handle this case, does not on arm.  Thus, those few parts
of the kernel which use flush_kernel_dcache_page() may fail horribly
(for example the scatterlist memory iterator API, see [1]).

Back to arm64 (and possibly to arm with non-aliasing D-caches?), this
also means that the saved D-cache flush in the anonymous page case is
not only a slight improvement on clarity, but may avoid a
considerable number of D-cache flushes in some I/O situations.  (If
it is still correct that there are no problems with the I-cache for
this use case.)

If now we could additionally avoid to flush the entire I-cache for
every page in direct I/O operations with user mapped page cache
pages (e.g. direct I/O read into an mmap region)...

 
> > What is the reason why the D-cache flush is done in different
> > cases than the following I-cache flush?
> 
> For __sync_icache_dcache(), we need to handle the situation where the
> page mapped into user space has been cleaned (D-cache) but there may be
> stale data in the I-cache. I think this can only happen with an
> ASID-tagged VIVT I-cache configuration (which is allowed on AArch64) if
> an existing page has been unmapped and the same virtual address remapped
> (withing the same mm context) to a different page that had been cleaned
> previously. We could optimise the __sync_icache_dcache() as below:
> 
> 	if (!test_and_set_bit(PG_dcache_clean, &page->flags)) {
> 		__flush_dcache_page(page);
> 		__flush_icache_all();
> 	} else if (icache_is_aivivt()) {
> 		__flush_icache_all();
> 	}

Sorry, this is out of my depth. I think I don't really understand the
cases leading to I/D incoherency.


- Simon

[1] http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-arm-kernel/2012-July/111393.html

PS: You did not mention the following comment from my mail. It was
easy to overlook. Just to make sure you did not miss it:

> diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/cache.S b/arch/arm64/mm/cache.S
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000..3df0aa7
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/cache.S

...
> +/*
> + *	__flush_kern_dcache_page(kaddr)


Should be:  __flush_dcache_area(kaddr,size)

> + *
> + *	Ensure that the data held in the page kaddr is written back
> to the
> + *	page in question.

s/page/area

> + *
> + *	- kaddr   - kernel address
> + *	- size    - size in question
> + */
> +ENTRY(__flush_dcache_area)
> +	dcache_line_size x2, x3
> +	add	x1, x0, x1
> +

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-12 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-07 16:26 [PATCH v3 00/31] AArch64 Linux kernel port Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 01/31] arm64: Assembly macros and definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 02/31] arm64: Kernel booting and initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:07   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-09 17:20   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-09 23:29     ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-09 23:29       ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10  5:53       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 12:51         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 13:53           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:12             ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 14:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:48                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:53                 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 15:00                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 15:21           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 15:21             ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 16:08             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 16:29             ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 20:28         ` Jon Masters
2012-09-10 16:11     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 12:08       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-12 13:49         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 15:56           ` Christopher Covington
2012-09-13 15:56             ` Christopher Covington
2012-09-13 17:11             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 03/31] arm64: Exception handling Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:09   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 04/31] arm64: MMU definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:10   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 05/31] arm64: MMU initialisation Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:10   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 06/31] arm64: MMU fault handling and page table management Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:11   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 07/31] arm64: Process management Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:20   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 08/31] arm64: CPU support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:24     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 16:43     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 09/31] arm64: Cache maintenance routines Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:28   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 16:48     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 17:29       ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-14 16:53         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:35   ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-12  9:29     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 21:55       ` Simon Baatz [this message]
2012-09-13 12:38         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 20:14           ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-13 20:14             ` Simon Baatz
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 10/31] arm64: TLB maintenance functionality Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:28   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 11/31] arm64: IRQ handling Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-12 10:24     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-12 10:24       ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 12/31] arm64: Atomic operations Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 13/31] arm64: Device specific operations Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 14/31] arm64: DMA mapping API Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:38   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 15/31] arm64: SMP support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 16/31] arm64: ELF definitions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:40   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 17/31] arm64: System calls handling Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:43   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:54     ` Al Viro
2012-09-10  9:56     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 13:51       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:01         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-10 14:24           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 15:50             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 18/31] arm64: VDSO support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:44   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:44     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 19/31] arm64: Signal handling support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 20/31] arm64: User access library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 21/31] arm64: 32-bit (compat) applications support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:47   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-13  9:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 11:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-13 15:50         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 22/31] arm64: Floating point and SIMD Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 23/31] arm64: Debugging support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:49   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:26 ` [PATCH v3 24/31] arm64: Add support for /proc/sys/debug/exception-trace Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 25/31] arm64: Performance counters support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 26/31] arm64: Miscellaneous library functions Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:52   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-12 21:12     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-13 10:48       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-13 10:48         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 27/31] arm64: Loadable modules Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:52   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 28/31] arm64: Generic timers support Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:53   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-08  8:28   ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-08  8:28     ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 29/31] arm64: Miscellaneous header files Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:54   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 19:54     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 30/31] arm64: Build infrastructure Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 19:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-07 16:27 ` [PATCH v3 31/31] arm64: MAINTAINERS update Catalin Marinas
2012-09-07 16:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-09 16:31   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-09 16:31     ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2012-09-10 17:57     ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 21:17       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-09-10 23:31         ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 23:31           ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-07 23:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/31] AArch64 Linux kernel port Olof Johansson
2012-09-12 14:54   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-09-08  9:18 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2012-09-08 13:59   ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-08 14:42     ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2012-09-10 17:53 ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-09-10 20:22 ` Jon Masters
2012-09-12 11:54   ` Arnd Bergmann

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