From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>
Cc: Jonas Bonn <jonas@southpole.se>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@gmail.com>,
Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
Jesper Nilsson <jesper.nilsson@axis.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Hirokazu Takata <takata@linux-m32r.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Lennox Wu <lennox.wu@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>, Guan Xuetao <gx>
Subject: Re: new execve/kernel_thread design
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:19:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121017161953.GZ2616@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121017160702.GY2616@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:07:03PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> What happens during boot is this:
> * init_task (not to be confused with init) is used as current during
> infrastructure initializations. Once everything needed for scheduler and
> for working fork is set, we spawn two threads - future init and future
> kthreadd. The last thing we do with init_task is telling init that kthreadd
> has been spawned. After that init_task turns itself into an idle thread.
> * future init waits for kthreadd to be spawned (it would be more
> natural to fork them in opposite order, but we want init to have PID 1 -
> too much stuff in userland depends on that). Then it does the rest of
> initialization, including setting up initramfs contents. And does
> kernel_execve() on /init. Note that this is a task that had been created
> by kernel_thread() and is currently in function called from
> ret_from_kernel_thread(). Its kernel stack has been set up by copy_thread().
> That's where pt_regs need to be set up; note that they'll be passed to
> start_thread() before you return to userland. If there are any magic bits
> in pt_regs needed by return-from-syscall code, set them in kthread case of
> copy_thread().
PS: I suspect that we end up with the wrong value in childregs->msr;
start_thread() only add MSR_UMS there. I'd suggest running the kernel
with these patches + printk childregs->msr the very first time start_thread()
is called and see what it prints, then working kernel + such printk and
compare the results...
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Michal Simek <monstr@monstr.eu>
Cc: Jonas Bonn <jonas@southpole.se>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Haavard Skinnemoen <hskinnemoen@gmail.com>,
Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>,
Jesper Nilsson <jesper.nilsson@axis.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Hirokazu Takata <takata@linux-m32r.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
"James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@parisc-linux.org>,
Richard Kuo <rkuo@codeaurora.org>,
Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
Lennox Wu <lennox.wu@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Chris Zankel <chris@zankel.net>,
Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@tilera.com>,
Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>
Subject: Re: new execve/kernel_thread design
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:19:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121017161953.GZ2616@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
Message-ID: <20121017161953.7LCgl3zxC3CGBQLGpZTxFv5hPShAUrDovLoMii6m2YY@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121017160702.GY2616@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:07:03PM +0100, Al Viro wrote:
> What happens during boot is this:
> * init_task (not to be confused with init) is used as current during
> infrastructure initializations. Once everything needed for scheduler and
> for working fork is set, we spawn two threads - future init and future
> kthreadd. The last thing we do with init_task is telling init that kthreadd
> has been spawned. After that init_task turns itself into an idle thread.
> * future init waits for kthreadd to be spawned (it would be more
> natural to fork them in opposite order, but we want init to have PID 1 -
> too much stuff in userland depends on that). Then it does the rest of
> initialization, including setting up initramfs contents. And does
> kernel_execve() on /init. Note that this is a task that had been created
> by kernel_thread() and is currently in function called from
> ret_from_kernel_thread(). Its kernel stack has been set up by copy_thread().
> That's where pt_regs need to be set up; note that they'll be passed to
> start_thread() before you return to userland. If there are any magic bits
> in pt_regs needed by return-from-syscall code, set them in kthread case of
> copy_thread().
PS: I suspect that we end up with the wrong value in childregs->msr;
start_thread() only add MSR_UMS there. I'd suggest running the kernel
with these patches + printk childregs->msr the very first time start_thread()
is called and see what it prints, then working kernel + such printk and
compare the results...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-17 16:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20121016223508.GR2616@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
2012-10-17 5:32 ` new execve/kernel_thread design Max Filippov
2012-10-17 5:43 ` Al Viro
2012-10-17 5:43 ` Al Viro
[not found] ` <CACM3HyEpypULRWUc5ZnLnZ=uOWf3_j=9PXZiJrT_BXyGcQe9yg@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-17 14:27 ` Michal Simek
2012-10-17 14:27 ` Michal Simek
2012-10-17 16:07 ` Al Viro
2012-10-17 16:07 ` Al Viro
2012-10-17 16:19 ` Al Viro [this message]
2012-10-17 16:19 ` Al Viro
2012-11-15 16:41 ` Michal Simek
2012-11-15 16:41 ` Michal Simek
2012-11-15 21:55 ` Al Viro
2012-11-15 21:55 ` Al Viro
2012-11-16 7:59 ` Michal Simek
2012-11-18 5:45 ` sigaltstack fun (was Re: new execve/kernel_thread design) Al Viro
2012-11-18 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-18 19:03 ` sigaltstack fun David Miller
2012-11-18 19:59 ` Al Viro
2012-11-18 19:59 ` Al Viro
2012-11-18 20:48 ` David Miller
2012-11-19 4:55 ` Greg KH
2012-11-18 21:02 ` Al Viro
2012-11-18 21:18 ` David Miller
2012-11-19 1:10 ` Al Viro
2012-11-19 1:30 ` David Miller
2012-11-19 2:35 ` Al Viro
2012-11-19 2:35 ` Al Viro
2012-11-19 3:27 ` David Miller
2012-11-26 5:10 ` Al Viro
2012-11-26 5:15 ` Al Viro
2012-12-04 3:03 ` David Miller
2012-12-04 2:58 ` David Miller
2012-11-21 1:53 ` sigaltstack fun (was Re: new execve/kernel_thread design) Al Viro
2012-10-19 20:25 ` [PATCH] tile: support GENERIC_KERNEL_THREAD and GENERIC_KERNEL_EXECVE Chris Metcalf
2012-10-19 20:25 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-10-19 21:35 ` Al Viro
2012-10-20 13:06 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-10-20 15:34 ` Al Viro
2012-10-20 17:16 ` Al Viro
2012-10-23 17:30 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-10-23 18:41 ` Al Viro
2012-10-23 19:22 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-10-23 20:36 ` Al Viro
2012-10-23 20:36 ` Al Viro
2012-10-25 13:31 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-10-25 14:25 ` Al Viro
2012-10-25 14:25 ` Al Viro
2012-10-23 20:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-10-23 20:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-10-23 20:51 ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 20:51 ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 21:09 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-10-23 21:09 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-10-23 21:22 ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 21:22 ` Jeff King
2012-10-24 11:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-10-24 11:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-10-23 21:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-10-23 21:47 ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 21:47 ` Jeff King
2012-10-23 22:06 ` Marc Gauthier
2012-10-23 22:06 ` Marc Gauthier
2012-10-23 22:23 ` Jeff King
2012-10-24 6:02 ` Johannes Sixt
2012-10-24 6:02 ` Johannes Sixt
2012-10-24 1:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-24 1:56 ` Al Viro
2012-10-24 2:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-10-24 6:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-24 6:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-10-23 17:30 ` [PATCH] arch/tile: eliminate pt_regs trampolines for syscalls Chris Metcalf
2012-10-23 17:30 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-10-22 14:23 ` [PATCH] tile: support GENERIC_KERNEL_THREAD and GENERIC_KERNEL_EXECVE Catalin Marinas
2012-10-26 18:31 ` [update] Re: new execve/kernel_thread design Al Viro
2012-10-26 18:31 ` Al Viro
2012-10-27 3:32 ` Al Viro
2012-10-27 3:32 ` Al Viro
2012-10-29 7:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-10-29 7:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Al Viro
2012-10-29 13:25 ` Al Viro
2012-10-29 14:38 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-10-29 14:38 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2012-10-29 14:57 ` Al Viro
2012-10-29 14:57 ` Al Viro
2012-12-07 22:23 ` Al Viro
2012-12-07 22:23 ` Al Viro
2012-12-08 2:40 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-12-08 2:40 ` Chris Metcalf
2012-12-13 1:54 ` Hirokazu Takata
2012-12-13 1:54 ` Hirokazu Takata
2012-10-19 15:55 Al Viro
2012-10-21 10:35 ` James Bottomley
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