From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu-rwsem: use barrier in unlock path
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:28:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121017202806.GA7282@home.goodmis.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210171046130.26481@file.rdu.redhat.com>
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:07:21AM -0400, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >
> > Even the previous patch is applied, percpu_down_read() still
> > needs mb() to pair with it.
>
> percpu_down_read uses rcu_read_lock which should guarantee that memory
> accesses don't escape in front of a rcu-protected section.
You do realize that rcu_read_lock() does nothing more that a barrier(),
right?
Paul worked really hard to get rcu_read_locks() to not call HW barriers.
>
> If rcu_read_unlock has only an unlock barrier and not a full barrier,
> memory accesses could be moved in front of rcu_read_unlock and reordered
> with this_cpu_inc(*p->counters), but it doesn't matter because
> percpu_down_write does synchronize_rcu(), so it never sees these accesses
> halfway through.
Looking at the patch, you are correct. The read side doesn't need the
memory barrier as the worse thing that will happen is that it sees the
locked = false, and will just grab the mutex unnecessarily.
> >
> > I suggest any new synchronization should stay in -tip for 2 or more cycles
> > before merged to mainline.
>
> But the bug that this synchronization is fixing is quite serious (it
> causes random crashes when block size is being changed, the crash happens
> regularly at multiple important business sites) so it must be fixed soon
> and not wait half a year.
I don't think Lai was suggesting to wait on this fix, but instead to
totally rip out the percpu_rwsems and work on them some more, and then
re-introduce them in a half a year.
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-17 20:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210151716310.10685@file.rdu.redhat.com>
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1210161924350.20581@file.rdu.redhat.com>
2012-10-17 2:23 ` [PATCH] percpu-rwsem: use barrier in unlock path Linus Torvalds
2012-10-17 5:58 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-17 5:58 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-17 15:07 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-17 20:28 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2012-10-17 20:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-18 2:18 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-10-18 4:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-10-18 16:17 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-18 15:32 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-18 19:56 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-18 16:05 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-17 9:56 ` Alan Cox
2012-10-18 16:00 ` Mikulas Patocka
2012-10-19 18:48 ` Linus Torvalds
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