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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, oleg@redhat.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 04/45] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:57:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130123195740.GI2373@mtj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51003B20.2060506@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Hello, Srivatsa.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:03:52AM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> Hmm.. I split it up into steps to help explain the reasoning behind
> the code sufficiently, rather than spring all of the intricacies at
> one go (which would make it very hard to write the changelog/comments
> also). The split made it easier for me to document it well in the
> changelog, because I could deal with reasonable chunks of code/complexity
> at a time. IMHO that helps people reading it for the first time to
> understand the logic easily.

I don't know.  It's a judgement call I guess.  I personally would much
prefer having ample documentation as comments in the source itself or
as a separate Documentation/ file as that's what most people are gonna
be looking at to figure out what's going on.  Maybe just compact it a
bit and add more in-line documentation instead?

> > The only two options are either punishing writers or identifying and
> > updating all such possible deadlocks.  percpu_rwsem does the former,
> > right?  I don't know how feasible the latter would be.
> 
> I don't think we can avoid looking into all the possible deadlocks,
> as long as we use rwlocks inside get/put_online_cpus_atomic() (assuming
> rwlocks are fair). Even with Oleg's idea of using synchronize_sched()
> at the writer, we still need to take care of locking rules, because the
> synchronize_sched() only helps avoid the memory barriers at the reader,
> and doesn't help get rid of the rwlocks themselves.

Well, percpu_rwlock don't have to use rwlock for the slow path.  It
can implement its own writer starving locking scheme.  It's not like
implementing slow path global rwlock logic is difficult.

> CPU 0                          CPU 1
> 
> read_lock(&rwlock)
> 
>                               write_lock(&rwlock) //spins, because CPU 0
>                               //has acquired the lock for read
> 
> read_lock(&rwlock)
>    ^^^^^
> What happens here? Does CPU 0 start spinning (and hence deadlock) or will
> it continue realizing that it already holds the rwlock for read?

I don't think rwlock allows nesting write lock inside read lock.
read_lock(); write_lock() will always deadlock.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-01-23 19:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 221+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-22  7:33 [PATCH v5 00/45] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 01/45] percpu_rwlock: Introduce the global reader-writer lock backend Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22 18:45   ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-01-22 18:45     ` Stephen Hemminger
2013-01-22 19:41     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22 19:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-22 19:58     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22 20:54       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-01-24  4:14     ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-01-24  4:14       ` Michel Lespinasse
2013-01-24 15:58       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 02/45] percpu_rwlock: Introduce per-CPU variables for the reader and the writer Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 03/45] percpu_rwlock: Provide a way to define and init percpu-rwlocks at compile time Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33 ` [PATCH v5 04/45] percpu_rwlock: Implement the core design of Per-CPU Reader-Writer Locks Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:33   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-23 18:55   ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 18:55     ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-23 19:33     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-23 19:33       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-23 19:57       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2013-01-23 19:57         ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-24  4:30         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-24  4:30           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-29 11:12           ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-29 11:12             ` Namhyung Kim
2013-02-08 22:47             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-08 22:47               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 18:38               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-08 23:10     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 18:06     ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 18:06       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 19:24       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:24         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:50         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 19:50           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 20:09           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 20:09             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 22:13             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 22:13               ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:54       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:54         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-12 16:15         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-12 16:15           ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:10     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:10       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:47       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:57         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:57           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 20:13       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 20:13         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 20:20         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34 ` [PATCH v5 05/45] percpu_rwlock: Make percpu-rwlocks IRQ-safe, optimally Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:44   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-08 23:44     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:27     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 18:42   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-02-10 19:30     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:30       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34 ` [PATCH v5 06/45] percpu_rwlock: Allow writers to be readers, and add lockdep annotations Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:47   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-08 23:47     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:32     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:32       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34 ` [PATCH v5 07/45] CPU hotplug: Provide APIs to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:34   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-29 10:21   ` Namhyung Kim
2013-02-10 19:34     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:34       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:50   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-08 23:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 08/45] CPU hotplug: Convert preprocessor macros to static inline functions Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 23:51   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-08 23:51     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 09/45] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix smp_call_function_*() to prevent CPU offline properly Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:07   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-09  0:07     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:41     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:41       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:56       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:56         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:59         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 10/45] smp, cpu hotplug: Fix on_each_cpu_*() " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 11/45] sched/timer: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35 ` [PATCH v5 12/45] sched/migration: Use raw_spin_lock/unlock since interrupts are already disabled Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:35   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36 ` [PATCH v5 13/45] sched/rt: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36 ` [PATCH v5 14/45] rcu, CPU hotplug: Fix comment referring to stop_machine() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:14   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-09  0:14     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:43     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:43       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36 ` [PATCH v5 15/45] tick: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:36   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:37 ` [PATCH v5 16/45] time/clocksource: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:37 ` [PATCH v5 17/45] softirq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:37   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 18/45] irq: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 19/45] net: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 20/45] block: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:38 ` [PATCH v5 21/45] crypto: pcrypt - Protect access to cpu_online_mask with get/put_online_cpus() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 22/45] infiniband: ehca: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 23/45] [SCSI] fcoe: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 24/45] staging: octeon: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 25/45] x86: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39 ` [PATCH v5 26/45] perf/x86: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:39   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40 ` [PATCH v5 27/45] KVM: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline from atomic context Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40 ` [PATCH v5 28/45] kvm/vmx: Use get/put_online_cpus_atomic() to prevent CPU offline Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40 ` [PATCH v5 29/45] x86/xen: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:40   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-19 18:10   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-02-19 18:10     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-02-19 18:29     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-19 18:29       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41 ` [PATCH v5 30/45] alpha/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41 ` [PATCH v5 31/45] blackfin/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-28  9:09   ` Bob Liu
2013-01-28  9:09     ` Bob Liu
2013-01-28 19:06     ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-28 19:06       ` Tejun Heo
2013-01-29  1:14       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-29  1:14         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41 ` [PATCH v5 32/45] cris/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:41   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 33/45] hexagon/smp: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 34/45] ia64: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 35/45] m32r: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42 ` [PATCH v5 36/45] MIPS: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:42   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43 ` [PATCH v5 37/45] mn10300: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43 ` [PATCH v5 38/45] parisc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43 ` [PATCH v5 39/45] powerpc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:43   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 40/45] sh: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 41/45] sparc: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 42/45] tile: " Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44 ` [PATCH v5 43/45] cpu: No more __stop_machine() in _cpu_down() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:44   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:45 ` [PATCH v5 44/45] CPU hotplug, stop_machine: Decouple CPU hotplug from stop_machine() in Kconfig Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:45   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:15   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-09  0:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-10 19:45     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-10 19:45       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:45 ` [PATCH v5 45/45] Documentation/cpu-hotplug: Remove references to stop_machine() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-01-22  7:45   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-09  0:16   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-09  0:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-04 13:47 ` [PATCH v5 00/45] CPU hotplug: stop_machine()-free CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-07  4:14   ` Rusty Russell
2013-02-07  4:14     ` Rusty Russell
2013-02-07  6:11     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-07  6:11       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 15:41       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-08 16:44         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 16:44           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 18:09           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-08 18:09             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 11:58             ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-11 11:58               ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-11 12:23               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 12:23                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 19:08                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-11 19:08                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-02-12  3:58                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-15 13:28                     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-15 19:40                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-15 19:40                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:24                         ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 10:34                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:34                             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:51                             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:51                               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-18 10:58                               ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 10:58                                 ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 15:30                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 16:50                                   ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 16:50                                     ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 19:53                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 19:53                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 19:53                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 19:53                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19 10:33                                       ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-19 10:33                                         ` Vincent Guittot
2013-02-18 10:54                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2013-02-18 10:57                               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 12:41 ` [PATCH v5 01/45] percpu_rwlock: Introduce the global reader-writer lock backend David Howells
2013-02-11 12:41   ` David Howells
2013-02-11 12:56   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2013-02-11 12:56     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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