From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
"Paul E.McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>George
Spelvin <l>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:08:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131112160827.GB25953@mudshark.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1384204673.10046.6.camel@schen9-mobl3>
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 09:17:52PM +0000, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 18:10 +0000, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 07:52:38PM +0000, Tim Chen wrote:
> > > diff --git a/kernel/locking/mcs_spinlock.c b/kernel/locking/mcs_spinlock.c
> > > index b6f27f8..df5c167 100644
> > > --- a/kernel/locking/mcs_spinlock.c
> > > +++ b/kernel/locking/mcs_spinlock.c
> > > @@ -23,6 +23,31 @@
> > > #endif
> > >
> > > /*
> > > + * Fall back to use the regular atomic operations and memory barrier if
> > > + * the acquire/release versions are not defined.
> > > + */
> > > +#ifndef xchg_acquire
> > > +# define xchg_acquire(p, v) xchg(p, v)
> > > +#endif
> > > +
> > > +#ifndef smp_load_acquire
> > > +# define smp_load_acquire(p) \
> > > + ({ \
> > > + typeof(*p) __v = ACCESS_ONCE(*(p)); \
> > > + smp_mb(); \
> > > + __v; \
> > > + })
> > > +#endif
> > > +
> > > +#ifndef smp_store_release
> > > +# define smp_store_release(p, v) \
> > > + do { \
> > > + smp_mb(); \
> > > + ACCESS_ONCE(*(p)) = v; \
> > > + } while (0)
> > > +#endif
> >
> > PeterZ already has a series implementing acquire/release accessors, so you
> > should probably take a look at that rather than rolling your own here.
>
> Yes, we are using Peter Z's implementation here. The above is for anything
> where smp_load_acquire and smp_store_release are *not* defined. We can
> remove this once all architectures implement the acquire and release
> functions as mentioned in the comments of the patch.
Right, so you can use barrier.h and asm-generic will define generic versions
(identical to the above) for you if the architecture doesn't have an
optimised variant. You don't need to reproduce that in your .c file.
> > > + /*
> > > + * Wait until the lock holder passes the lock down.
> > > + * Using smp_load_acquire() provides a memory barrier that
> > > + * ensures subsequent operations happen after the lock is acquired.
> > > + */
> > > + while (!(smp_load_acquire(&node->locked)))
> > > arch_mutex_cpu_relax();
> >
> > After a chat with some micro-architects, I'm going to have to disagree with
> > Paul here. For architectures where acquire/release are implemented with
> > explicit barriers (similarly for simple microarchitectures), emitting
> > barriers in a loop *is* going to have an affect on overall performance,
> > since those barriers may well result in traffic outside of the core (at
> > least, on ARM).
> >
> > Thinking more about that, the real issue here is that arch_mutex_cpu_relax()
> > doesn't have a corresponding hook on the unlock side. On ARM, for example,
> > we can enter a low-power state using the wfe instruction, but that requires
> > the unlocker to wake up the core when the lock is released.
>
> An alternate implementation is
> while (!ACCESS_ONCE(node->locked))
> arch_mutex_cpu_relax();
> smp_load_acquire(&node->locked);
>
> Leaving the smp_load_acquire at the end to provide appropriate barrier.
> Will that be acceptable?
It still doesn't solve my problem though: I want a way to avoid that busy
loop by some architecture-specific manner. The arch_mutex_cpu_relax() hook
is a start, but there is no corresponding hook on the unlock side to issue a
wakeup. Given a sensible relax implementation, I don't have an issue with
putting a load-acquire in a loop, since it shouldn't be aggresively spinning
anymore.
Will
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2013-11-08 19:51 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] MCS Lock: Restructure the MCS lock defines and locking code into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:51 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:10 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:42 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:42 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] MCS Lock: optimizations and extra comments Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:42 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:42 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 22:57 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 22:57 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 23:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 23:05 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] MCS Lock: Move mcs_lock/unlock function into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-11 18:10 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-11 18:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 19:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-11 21:17 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-12 1:57 ` Waiman Long
2013-11-19 19:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 21:45 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 23:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-12 2:09 ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 14:54 ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 14:54 ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 16:08 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2013-11-12 17:16 ` George Spelvin
2013-11-13 17:37 ` Will Deacon
2013-11-19 19:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:21 ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:46 ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:46 ` Tim Chen
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