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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@linaro.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr.bueso@hp.com>,
	Matthew R Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:32:25 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131119193224.GT4138@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52818B07.70000@hp.com>

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:57:27PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 04:17 PM, Tim Chen wrote:
> >>You could then augment that with [cmp]xchg_{acquire,release} as
> >>appropriate.
> >>
> >>>+/*
> >>>   * In order to acquire the lock, the caller should declare a local node and
> >>>   * pass a reference of the node to this function in addition to the lock.
> >>>   * If the lock has already been acquired, then this will proceed to spin
> >>>@@ -37,15 +62,19 @@ void mcs_spin_lock(struct mcs_spinlock **lock, struct mcs_spinlock *node)
> >>>  	node->locked = 0;
> >>>  	node->next   = NULL;
> >>>
> >>>-	prev = xchg(lock, node);
> >>>+	/* xchg() provides a memory barrier */
> >>>+	prev = xchg_acquire(lock, node);
> >>>  	if (likely(prev == NULL)) {
> >>>  		/* Lock acquired */
> >>>  		return;
> >>>  	}
> >>>  	ACCESS_ONCE(prev->next) = node;
> >>>-	smp_wmb();
> >>>-	/* Wait until the lock holder passes the lock down */
> >>>-	while (!ACCESS_ONCE(node->locked))
> >>>+	/*
> >>>+	 * Wait until the lock holder passes the lock down.
> >>>+	 * Using smp_load_acquire() provides a memory barrier that
> >>>+	 * ensures subsequent operations happen after the lock is acquired.
> >>>+	 */
> >>>+	while (!(smp_load_acquire(&node->locked)))
> >>>  		arch_mutex_cpu_relax();
> >An alternate implementation is
> >	while (!ACCESS_ONCE(node->locked))
> >		arch_mutex_cpu_relax();
> >	smp_load_acquire(&node->locked);
> >
> >Leaving the smp_load_acquire at the end to provide appropriate barrier.
> >Will that be acceptable?
> >
> >Tim
> 
> I second Tim's opinion. It will be help to have a
> smp_mb_load_acquire() function that provide a memory barrier with
> load-acquire semantic. I don't think we need one for store-release
> as that will not be in a loop.

Hmmm...  I guess the ACCESS_ONCE() in the smp_load_acquire() should
prevent it from being optimized away.  But yes, you then end up with
an extra load on the critical lock hand-off patch.  And something
like an smp_mb_acquire() could then be useful, although I believe
that on all current hardware smp_mb_acquire() emits the same code
as would an smp_mb_release():

o	barrier() on TSO systems such as x86 and s390.

o	lwsync instruction on powerpc.  (Really old systems would
	want a different instruction for smp_mb_acquire(), but let's
	not optimize for really old systems.)

o	dmb instruction on ARM.

o	mf instruction on ia64.

So how about an smp_mb_acquire_release() to cover both use cases?
This could be used to further optimize circular buffers, for example.

							Thanx, Paul

> Peter, what do you think about adding that to your patch?
> 
> -Longman
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-19 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1383935697.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
2013-11-08 19:51 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] MCS Lock: Restructure the MCS lock defines and locking code into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:51   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:10     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:42     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:42       ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:54       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:54         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] MCS Lock: optimizations and extra comments Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:13   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:13     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:42     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:42       ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 22:57     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 22:57       ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 23:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 23:05         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] MCS Lock: Move mcs_lock/unlock function into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:15   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-11 18:10   ` Will Deacon
2013-11-11 18:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 19:23       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-11 21:17     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-12  1:57       ` Waiman Long
2013-11-19 19:32         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-11-19 21:45           ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 23:30             ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-12  2:09       ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 14:54       ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 14:54         ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 16:08       ` Will Deacon
2013-11-12 17:16         ` George Spelvin
2013-11-13 17:37           ` Will Deacon
2013-11-19 19:26     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:21   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:21     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:46     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:46       ` Tim Chen

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