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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
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	Raghavendra
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:30:38 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131119233037.GX4138@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1384897503.11046.445.camel@schen9-DESK>

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 01:45:03PM -0800, Tim Chen wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 11:32 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 08:57:27PM -0500, Waiman Long wrote:
> > > On 11/11/2013 04:17 PM, Tim Chen wrote:
> > > >>You could then augment that with [cmp]xchg_{acquire,release} as
> > > >>appropriate.
> > > >>
> > > >>>+/*
> > > >>>   * In order to acquire the lock, the caller should declare a local node and
> > > >>>   * pass a reference of the node to this function in addition to the lock.
> > > >>>   * If the lock has already been acquired, then this will proceed to spin
> > > >>>@@ -37,15 +62,19 @@ void mcs_spin_lock(struct mcs_spinlock **lock, struct mcs_spinlock *node)
> > > >>>  	node->locked = 0;
> > > >>>  	node->next   = NULL;
> > > >>>
> > > >>>-	prev = xchg(lock, node);
> > > >>>+	/* xchg() provides a memory barrier */
> > > >>>+	prev = xchg_acquire(lock, node);
> > > >>>  	if (likely(prev == NULL)) {
> > > >>>  		/* Lock acquired */
> > > >>>  		return;
> > > >>>  	}
> > > >>>  	ACCESS_ONCE(prev->next) = node;
> > > >>>-	smp_wmb();
> > > >>>-	/* Wait until the lock holder passes the lock down */
> > > >>>-	while (!ACCESS_ONCE(node->locked))
> > > >>>+	/*
> > > >>>+	 * Wait until the lock holder passes the lock down.
> > > >>>+	 * Using smp_load_acquire() provides a memory barrier that
> > > >>>+	 * ensures subsequent operations happen after the lock is acquired.
> > > >>>+	 */
> > > >>>+	while (!(smp_load_acquire(&node->locked)))
> > > >>>  		arch_mutex_cpu_relax();
> > > >An alternate implementation is
> > > >	while (!ACCESS_ONCE(node->locked))
> > > >		arch_mutex_cpu_relax();
> > > >	smp_load_acquire(&node->locked);
> > > >
> > > >Leaving the smp_load_acquire at the end to provide appropriate barrier.
> > > >Will that be acceptable?
> > > >
> > > >Tim
> > > 
> > > I second Tim's opinion. It will be help to have a
> > > smp_mb_load_acquire() function that provide a memory barrier with
> > > load-acquire semantic. I don't think we need one for store-release
> > > as that will not be in a loop.
> > 
> > Hmmm...  I guess the ACCESS_ONCE() in the smp_load_acquire() should
> > prevent it from being optimized away.  But yes, you then end up with
> > an extra load on the critical lock hand-off patch.  And something
> > like an smp_mb_acquire() could then be useful, although I believe
> > that on all current hardware smp_mb_acquire() emits the same code
> > as would an smp_mb_release():
> > 
> > o	barrier() on TSO systems such as x86 and s390.
> > 
> > o	lwsync instruction on powerpc.  (Really old systems would
> > 	want a different instruction for smp_mb_acquire(), but let's
> > 	not optimize for really old systems.)
> > 
> > o	dmb instruction on ARM.
> > 
> > o	mf instruction on ia64.
> > 
> > So how about an smp_mb_acquire_release() to cover both use cases?
> 
> I guess we haven't addressed Will's preference to use wfe for ARM
> instead of doing a spin loop.  I'll like some suggestions on how to
> proceed here.  Should we do arch_mcs_lock and arch_mcs_unlock, which
> defaults to the existing mcs_lock and mcs_unlock code, but allow
> architecture specific implementation?

It would be nice to confine the architecture-specific pieces if at all
possible.  For example, can the architecture-specific piece be confined
to the actual high-contention lock handoff?

							Thanx, Paul

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-19 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1383935697.git.tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
2013-11-08 19:51 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] MCS Lock: Restructure the MCS lock defines and locking code into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:51   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:10   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:10     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:42     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:42       ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:54       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:54         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] MCS Lock: optimizations and extra comments Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:13   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:13     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:42     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:42       ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 22:57     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 22:57       ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 23:05       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 23:05         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] MCS Lock: Move mcs_lock/unlock function into its own file Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:15   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-08 19:52 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] MCS Lock: Barrier corrections Tim Chen
2013-11-08 19:52   ` Tim Chen
2013-11-11 18:10   ` Will Deacon
2013-11-11 18:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-11-19 19:23       ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-11 21:17     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-12  1:57       ` Waiman Long
2013-11-19 19:32         ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 21:45           ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 23:30             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2013-11-12  2:09       ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 14:54       ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 14:54         ` Waiman Long
2013-11-12 16:08       ` Will Deacon
2013-11-12 17:16         ` George Spelvin
2013-11-13 17:37           ` Will Deacon
2013-11-19 19:26     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:21   ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:21     ` Paul E. McKenney
2013-11-19 19:46     ` Tim Chen
2013-11-19 19:46       ` Tim Chen

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