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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] dt: Handle passed/built-in DT selection in early_init_dt_scan()
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:32:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131127153245.2B56EC404EC@trevor.secretlab.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdXjROx-LqNkq_GhNp4M-iYvDXV6X4j7EkgQGdkUmAMvhg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:49:08 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> My changes don't change the current behavior much: currently
> >> early_init_dt_scan() is already called with &__dtb_start in several places.
> >> If this is broken, it's already broken.
> >
> > Yes, but it is called on platforms that already make that assumption
> > that __dtb_start must be copied and therefore call
> > unflatten_and_copy_devicetree(). This change makes *all* platforms do
> > that. That breaks arm, arm64, c6x, microblaze, some mips platforms, and
> > powerpc!
> 
> arm, arm64, and powerpc don't have builtin DTBs, hence no change.
> microblaze and c6x already did "early_init_devtree(&__dtb_start)" before.
> 
> That leaves mips, which has DT handling in too many variants, which I
> didn't all verify.
> 
> >> > memory. The dtb section can also potentially contain multiple .dtb
> >> > blobs. In the use case that you care about you are probably only
> >>
> >> Multiple dtb blobs are currently handled in platform-specific code, which
> >> passes the right dtb to early_init_dt_scan().
> >
> > The problem is that it makes the default dt completely random because
> > the generic code still deferrences __dtb_start.
> 
> Only if no DT was passed by the bootloader. And only if there really
> is something at __dtb_start. Before it would fail if no DTB was passed
> by the bootloader.
> 
> >> > thinking about one, but it is entirely possible for device drivers to
> >> > have a dtb linked in which may break this if it gets linked in a
> >> > different order. The specific example I'm thinking about is I want to
> >> > have the DT selftest code load an overlay to get testcase data from a
> >> > dtb blob.
> >> >
> >> > The other concern I have here is that I don't really want this to be the
> >> > default on a lot of platforms. ARM and PowerPC for instance should only
> >> > get the default dtb from the boot wrapper. It needs to be configurable
> >> > in some way.
> >>
> >> On ARM and PowerPC, the section is empty, hence &__dbt_start ==
> >> &__dtb_end.
> >
> > There is no guarantee that that will always be so. The patch makes some
> > poor assumtions, but they shouldn't be difficult to fix.
> 
> OK, how to proceed?

Add a global flag, bool __init of_dtb_needs_copy, and make it default to
false. On platforms that need it, change it to true. Make
unflatten_device_tree() check the flag and copy the tree if necessary.
Make early_init_dt_scan() set the flag if it choses to use a default
built-in tree. Then get rid of unflatten_and_copy_devicetree() because
it has become redundant.

Finally, make an explicit backup __dtb pointer.  Don't assume that
__dtb_start == __dtb_end is the correct test. We never want to have that
behavour on arm/powerpc/microblaze, but that doesn't mean there won't be
compiled in dtbs for other reasons. Create a __dtb_default symbol
require platforms to do something specific (ie. select a config symbol)
to set it to __dtb_start. It's not perfect, but at least it acknowledges
the problem and can be refined later.

g.
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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] dt: Handle passed/built-in DT selection in early_init_dt_scan()
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:32:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20131127153245.2B56EC404EC@trevor.secretlab.ca> (raw)
Message-ID: <20131127153245.JxALXci8FYMb0yis2w04CR5Ec9S86RxwGDJYuV-_q-o@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdXjROx-LqNkq_GhNp4M-iYvDXV6X4j7EkgQGdkUmAMvhg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:49:08 +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca> wrote:
> >> My changes don't change the current behavior much: currently
> >> early_init_dt_scan() is already called with &__dtb_start in several places.
> >> If this is broken, it's already broken.
> >
> > Yes, but it is called on platforms that already make that assumption
> > that __dtb_start must be copied and therefore call
> > unflatten_and_copy_devicetree(). This change makes *all* platforms do
> > that. That breaks arm, arm64, c6x, microblaze, some mips platforms, and
> > powerpc!
> 
> arm, arm64, and powerpc don't have builtin DTBs, hence no change.
> microblaze and c6x already did "early_init_devtree(&__dtb_start)" before.
> 
> That leaves mips, which has DT handling in too many variants, which I
> didn't all verify.
> 
> >> > memory. The dtb section can also potentially contain multiple .dtb
> >> > blobs. In the use case that you care about you are probably only
> >>
> >> Multiple dtb blobs are currently handled in platform-specific code, which
> >> passes the right dtb to early_init_dt_scan().
> >
> > The problem is that it makes the default dt completely random because
> > the generic code still deferrences __dtb_start.
> 
> Only if no DT was passed by the bootloader. And only if there really
> is something at __dtb_start. Before it would fail if no DTB was passed
> by the bootloader.
> 
> >> > thinking about one, but it is entirely possible for device drivers to
> >> > have a dtb linked in which may break this if it gets linked in a
> >> > different order. The specific example I'm thinking about is I want to
> >> > have the DT selftest code load an overlay to get testcase data from a
> >> > dtb blob.
> >> >
> >> > The other concern I have here is that I don't really want this to be the
> >> > default on a lot of platforms. ARM and PowerPC for instance should only
> >> > get the default dtb from the boot wrapper. It needs to be configurable
> >> > in some way.
> >>
> >> On ARM and PowerPC, the section is empty, hence &__dbt_start ==
> >> &__dtb_end.
> >
> > There is no guarantee that that will always be so. The patch makes some
> > poor assumtions, but they shouldn't be difficult to fix.
> 
> OK, how to proceed?

Add a global flag, bool __init of_dtb_needs_copy, and make it default to
false. On platforms that need it, change it to true. Make
unflatten_device_tree() check the flag and copy the tree if necessary.
Make early_init_dt_scan() set the flag if it choses to use a default
built-in tree. Then get rid of unflatten_and_copy_devicetree() because
it has become redundant.

Finally, make an explicit backup __dtb pointer.  Don't assume that
__dtb_start == __dtb_end is the correct test. We never want to have that
behavour on arm/powerpc/microblaze, but that doesn't mean there won't be
compiled in dtbs for other reasons. Create a __dtb_default symbol
require platforms to do something specific (ie. select a config symbol)
to set it to __dtb_start. It's not perfect, but at least it acknowledges
the problem and can be refined later.

g.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-27 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-12 19:42 [PATCH 00/17] <asm/sections.h> related cleanups Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 01/17] alpha: Use Kbuild logic to include <asm-generic/sections.h> Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 21:23   ` Richard Henderson
2013-11-12 21:23     ` Richard Henderson
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 02/17] cris: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-15 16:52   ` Jesper Nilsson
2013-11-15 16:52     ` Jesper Nilsson
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 03/17] m32r: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 04/17] mn10300: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 05/17] score: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-15 18:05   ` Lennox Wu
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 06/17] frv: Remove unused declarations of __start___ex_table and __stop___ex_table Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 07/17] ia64: Remove duplicate declarations of __per_cpu_start[] and __per_cpu_end[] Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] ` <1384285347-13506-1-git-send-email-geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 19:42   ` [PATCH 08/17] microblaze: Remove _fdt_start casts Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-13 10:08     ` Michal Simek
2013-11-12 19:42   ` [PATCH 09/17] microblaze: Remove duplicate declarations of _stext[] and _etext[] Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` [PATCH RFC 15/17] microblaze: Convert from _fdt_start to __dtb_start Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-13 10:19     ` Michal Simek
2013-11-13 13:40       ` Michal Simek
2013-11-13 14:02         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-13 14:02           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-13 14:21           ` Michal Simek
2013-11-13 16:14         ` Rob Herring
2013-11-14 16:29           ` Michal Simek
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 10/17] tile: Remove tile-specific _sinitdata and _einitdata Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-14  0:09   ` Chris Metcalf
2013-11-14  8:31     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-14 14:55       ` Chris Metcalf
2014-07-09 18:33         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-07-10 19:49           ` Chris Metcalf
2014-07-10 20:14             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 11/17] kernel/param: Consolidate __{start,stop}___param[] in <linux/moduleparam.h> Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-14  4:01   ` Rusty Russell
2013-11-14  4:01     ` Rusty Russell
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 12/17] nosave: Consolidate __nosave_{begin,end} in <asm/sections.h> Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 13/17] openrisc: Refactor or32_early_setup() Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-15  9:59   ` Jonas Bonn
2013-11-15  9:59     ` Jonas Bonn
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 14/17] dt: Consolidate __dtb_start declarations in <linux/of_fdt.h> Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-13  5:41   ` Vineet Gupta
     [not found]   ` <1384285347-13506-15-git-send-email-geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 15:51     ` Rob Herring
2013-11-13 15:51       ` Rob Herring
2013-11-13 17:20       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-13 17:34         ` Rob Herring
2013-11-13 18:40           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]       ` <5283A000.8090007-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 11:12         ` [PATCH 1/9] dt: Handle passed/built-in DT selection in early_init_dt_scan() Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12           ` [PATCH 2/9] arc: Use NULL as the default DTB Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-20  4:58             ` Vineet Gupta
2013-11-19 11:12           ` [PATCH 3/9] c6x: Remove duplicate DT selection logic Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]           ` <1384859554-27268-1-git-send-email-geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 11:12             ` [PATCH 4/9] metag: " Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]               ` <1384859554-27268-4-git-send-email-geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19 13:14                 ` James Hogan
2013-11-19 13:14                   ` James Hogan
2013-11-19 11:12             ` [PATCH 5/9] microblaze: Use NULL as the default DTB Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12           ` [PATCH 6/9] mips: Remove unused dt_setup_arch() Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12           ` [PATCH 7/9] mips: Use NULL as the default DTB Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12           ` [PATCH 8/9] openrisc: Remove duplicate DT selection logic Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12           ` [PATCH 9/9] xtensa: Use NULL as the default DTB Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 11:12             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-19 13:27           ` [PATCH 1/9] dt: Handle passed/built-in DT selection in early_init_dt_scan() James Hogan
2013-11-19 13:27             ` James Hogan
2013-11-20 20:50           ` Rob Herring
2013-11-21 12:21           ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 12:21             ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 12:23             ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 12:33               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 12:33                 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 13:42             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-21 13:42               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-21 15:53               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 17:49                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]               ` <CAMuHMdXfsB_Ewz9sUPZaAjFaQGTGeqMiD8mJ0tCoH1uFLYGoxw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-21 17:38                 ` Rob Herring
2013-11-21 17:42                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-27 15:35                     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-27 15:35                       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]       ` < 1384859554-27268-1-git-send-email-geert@linux-m68k.org>
     [not found]         ` <20131121122148. 1B43DC40A2C@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found]           ` < CAMuHMdXfsB_Ewz9sUPZaAjFaQGTGeqMiD8mJ0tCoH1uFLYGoxw@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` < CAL_JsqJVteJuaD0PRMHSR9cVcMJTSNj4wXtYiftG=-pYSR9vsQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]             ` < 20131121155348.66751C406A3@trevor.secretlab.ca>
     [not found]               ` < CAMuHMdXjROx-LqNkq_GhNp4M-iYvDXV6X4j7EkgQGdkUmAMvhg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                 ` <CAMuHMdXjROx-LqNkq_GhNp4M-iYvDXV6X4j7EkgQGdkUmAMvhg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-27 15:32                   ` Grant Likely [this message]
2013-11-27 15:32                     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-19 13:24     ` [PATCH 14/17] dt: Consolidate __dtb_start declarations in <linux/of_fdt.h> James Hogan
2013-11-19 13:24       ` James Hogan
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH RFC 16/17] c6x: Convert from _fdt_start to __dtb_start Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]   ` <1384285347-13506-17-git-send-email-geert-Td1EMuHUCqxL1ZNQvxDV9g@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 23:38     ` Mark Salter
2013-11-12 23:38       ` Mark Salter
2013-11-12 19:42 ` [PATCH 17/17] um: Remove unused declarations from <as-layout.h> Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:42   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:51   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-11-12 19:51     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-11-12 19:52     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:54 ` [PATCH 00/17] <asm/sections.h> related cleanups Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:56 ` [PATCH 1/2] openrisc: Use the declarations provided by <asm/sections.h> Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:56   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:56   ` [PATCH 2/2] openrisc: Remove unused declaration of __initramfs_start Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-12 19:56     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-11-13  5:25 ` [PATCH 00/17] <asm/sections.h> related cleanups Vineet Gupta
2013-11-20 18:55 ` [PATCH 06/17] frv: Remove unused declarations of __start___ex_table and __stop___ex_table David Howells
2013-11-20 18:56 ` [PATCH 04/17] mn10300: Use Kbuild logic to include <asm-generic/sections.h> David Howells
2013-11-20 18:56   ` David Howells

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