From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ley Foon Tan <lftan@altera.com>,
Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
LeyFoon Tan <lftan.linux@gmail.com>,
Chung-Lin Tang <cltang@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/25] Change time_t and clock_t to 64 bit
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 04:18:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140515111800.GA29456@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4160991.69XaTMjMrC@wuerfel>
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 01:08:02PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> c) glibc may or may not provide a way for applications to use
> the extended interfaces without a user space ABI break. My
> impression so far is that this is going to be too hard and
> it won't be done, but this is for the glibc developers to
> determine.
>
> The important distinction here is between user space time_t
> (timeval, timespec) and __kernel_time_t. We probably need
> to make the user space time_t a build-time conditional,
> at least for the foreseeable future. New architectures or
> new C libraries can start out using 64-bit time_t unconditionally.
I don't think there is any point in introducing new kernel interfaces
without having a talk to the glibc folks and people that represent the
Linux community in the standard body (e.g. Eric Blake).
How about you start sending a first high-level proposal with libc-alpha,
linux-kernel, linux-api and Eric in the Cc list and we'll see how we
can come up with something that is actually usable to solve our users
Y2038 problem. Without coordination we're just handing on the hot
potato.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-05-15 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 132+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-13 8:57 [PATCH 00/25] Change time_t and clock_t to 64 bit Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 01/25] asm-generic: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:15 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 9:32 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:32 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:50 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:50 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 10:17 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 10:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 12:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 13:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 13:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 14:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 10:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 10:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-14 3:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-14 10:44 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 02/25] arc: Add 32 bit time_t and clock_t Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 03/25] arm: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 04/25] avr32: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 20:19 ` Hans-Christian Egtvedt
2014-05-14 1:54 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-14 7:44 ` Hans-Christian Egtvedt
2014-05-14 21:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-13 9:02 ` [PATCH 05/25] blackfin: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:02 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 06/25] c6x: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 08/25] frv: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 09/25] hexagon: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 10/25] m32r: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` [PATCH 11/25] m68k: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:03 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:04 ` [PATCH 12/25] metag: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:04 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:22 ` James Hogan
2014-05-13 9:28 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:28 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 13/25] microblaze: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 14/25] mips: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 15/25] mn10300: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` [PATCH 16/25] openrisc: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:05 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Jonas Bonn
2014-05-13 9:30 ` Jonas Bonn
2014-05-13 9:41 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:41 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 17/25] parisc: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 20:17 ` Helge Deller
2014-05-14 1:57 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-15 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 19/25] s390: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 20/25] score: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 21/25] sh: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 22/25] sparc: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 23/25] unicore32: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` [PATCH 25/25] xtense: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:06 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:10 ` [PATCH 07/25] cris: " Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 9:10 ` [PATCH 00/25] Change time_t and clock_t to 64 bit Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 9:23 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-13 15:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-13 15:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-13 17:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-13 18:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 18:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 19:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-13 20:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-14 11:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 12:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-14 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 14:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 14:46 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-14 15:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 15:47 ` James Bottomley
2014-05-15 16:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 21:07 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-05-16 7:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-16 23:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-16 23:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-14 21:33 ` John Stultz
2014-05-15 0:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-15 3:32 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-05-15 11:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 11:18 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2014-05-15 17:11 ` Chung-Lin Tang
2014-05-15 17:12 ` Chung-Lin Tang
2014-05-15 17:12 ` Chung-Lin Tang
2014-05-15 18:01 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-15 19:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 20:10 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-15 20:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 20:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-15 21:05 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-19 8:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 8:08 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 14:46 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-19 17:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-19 18:12 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-19 18:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-16 23:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-16 23:47 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-17 0:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-18 13:46 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-18 16:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-18 18:18 ` Joseph S. Myers
2014-05-14 10:13 ` Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-14 10:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-14 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-05-13 18:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2014-05-13 19:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-05-14 3:36 ` [PATCH 24/25] x86: Add 32 bit time_t and clock_t Ley Foon Tan
2014-05-14 3:36 ` Ley Foon Tan
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