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From: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/10] tools: Revamp the unaligned endian access functions
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:21:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140611192111.GB16069@ravnborg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1402441994-16780-1-git-send-email-hpa@zytor.com>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 04:13:04PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> After a recent problem in the x86 tree, which seems to be the heaviest
> but not the only user of these functions, I went through and did a
> patchset to revamp the *user space* unaligned/endian accessor
> functions.  As much as I think it is downright pathetic that this
> functionality still isn't part of the C standard, that is life and we
> have to deal with it.  Furthermore, although glibc has a pretty nice
> set of functions for byte swapping in <endian.h>, taken from FreeBSD I
> believe, some older systems don't support them.
> 
> This variant tries to fill in all the holes.  It assumes that
> <endian.h> define the functions as macros if they exist, as I don't
> know any other way of probing for them without reaching for autoconf,
> but that should be valid enough of an assumption in this case.
> 
> The hope is that this should give reasonable, if not optimal, code
> generation on most processors, and give a hook where arch maintainers
> can add their own changes if needed.

This looks like a very complex solution to a simple problem.
We want a shared implementation of the *user space*
unaligned/endian accessor functions.
But do we really want *fast* versions for our use?

This is not a new libc that should generate optimal code,
but only something were we want to provide e working
implmentation for use in our user-space tools.

A much simpler approach without any fallback to arch specific
version etc. is everything we need.

	Sam


  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-11 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-10 23:13 [PATCH RFC 00/10] tools: Revamp the unaligned endian access functions H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 01/10] tools: Remove double-underscore symbols from user space byteshift functions H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 02/10] tools: Create <tools/unaligned.h> and an unaligned subdirectory H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 03/10] tools: Add le_direct/be_direct methods for unaligned access H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:25   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-10 23:30     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:30       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:33       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-10 23:33         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-06-10 23:41         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 04/10] tools: Add packed struct method for unaligned references H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 05/10] tools: Add <endian.h> libc support " H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 06/10] tools: Add gcc __builtin_bswap*() " H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 07/10] tools: Remove leading underscores from header guards H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 08/10] tools: Move unaligned common infrastructure into <tools/unaligned.h> H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 09/10] tools: Add common infrastructure for byte swapping H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 10/10] tools: Use reasonable defaults for the default access H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-10 23:13   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 19:21 ` Sam Ravnborg [this message]
2014-06-11 19:21   ` [PATCH RFC 00/10] tools: Revamp the unaligned endian access functions Sam Ravnborg
2014-06-11 21:52   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-11 21:52     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-13 20:04     ` Sam Ravnborg
2014-06-13 20:04       ` Sam Ravnborg

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