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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	scott.norton@hp.com, raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	paolo.bonzini@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	gleb@redhat.com, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	chegu_vinod@hp.com, david.vrabel@citrix.com, oleg@redhat.com,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/11] qspinlock: Add pending bit
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:10:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140617211057.GD29634@laptop.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140617210729.GB31817@laptop.dumpdata.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 05:07:29PM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 04:51:57PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > On 06/17/2014 04:36 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > >On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 02:47:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >>Because the qspinlock needs to touch a second cacheline; add a pending
> > >>bit and allow a single in-word spinner before we punt to the second
> > >>cacheline.
> > >Could you add this in the description please:
> > >
> > >And by second cacheline we mean the local 'node'. That is the:
> > >mcs_nodes[0] and mcs_nodes[idx]
> > >
> > >Perhaps it might be better then to split this in the header file
> > >as this is trying to not be a slowpath code - but rather - a
> > >pre-slow-path-lets-try-if-we can do another cmpxchg in case
> > >the unlocker has just unlocked itself.
> > >
> > >So something like:
> > >
> > >diff --git a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> > >index e8a7ae8..29cc9c7 100644
> > >--- a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> > >+++ b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> > >@@ -75,11 +75,21 @@ extern void queue_spin_lock_slowpath(struct qspinlock *lock, u32 val);
> > >   */
> > >  static __always_inline void queue_spin_lock(struct qspinlock *lock)
> > >  {
> > >-	u32 val;
> > >+	u32 val, new;
> > >
> > >  	val = atomic_cmpxchg(&lock->val, 0, _Q_LOCKED_VAL);
> > >  	if (likely(val == 0))
> > >  		return;
> > >+
> > >+	/* One more attempt - but if we fail mark it as pending. */
> > >+	if (val == _Q_LOCKED_VAL) {
> > >+		new = Q_LOCKED_VAL |_Q_PENDING_VAL;
> > >+
> > >+		old = atomic_cmpxchg(&lock->val, val, new);
> > >+		if (old == _Q_LOCKED_VAL) /* YEEY! */
> > >+			return;
> > 
> > No, it can leave like that. The unlock path will not clear the pending bit.
> 
> Err, you are right. It needs to go back in the slowpath.

What I should have wrote is:

if (old == 0) /* YEEY */
  return;

As that would the same thing as this patch does on the pending bit - that
is if we can on the second compare and exchange set the pending bit (and the
lock) and the lock has been released - we are good.

And it is a quick path.

> 
> > We are trying to make the fastpath as simple as possible as it may be
> > inlined. The complexity of the queue spinlock is in the slowpath.
> 
> Sure, but then it shouldn't be called slowpath anymore as it is not
> slow. It is a combination of fast path (the potential chance of
> grabbing the lock and setting the pending lock) and the real slow
> path (the queuing). Perhaps it should be called 'queue_spinlock_complex' ?
> 

I forgot to mention - that was the crux of my comments - just change
the slowpath to complex name at that point to better reflect what
it does.

> > 
> > Moreover, an cmpxchg followed immediately followed by another cmpxchg will
> > just increase the level of memory contention when a lock is fairly
> > contended. The chance of second cmpxchg() succeeding will be pretty low.
> 
> Then why even do the pending bit - which is what the slowpath does
> for the first time. And if it grabs it (And sets the pending bit) it
> immediately exits. Why not perculate that piece of code in-to this header.
> 
> And the leave all that slow code (queing, mcs_lock access, etc) in the slowpath.
> 
> > 
> > -Longman
> > 
> > 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	paolo.bonzini@gmail.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, riel@redhat.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, oleg@redhat.com, gleb@redhat.com,
	scott.norton@hp.com, chegu_vinod@hp.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/11] qspinlock: Add pending bit
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 17:10:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140617211057.GD29634@laptop.dumpdata.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20140617211057.PY3ZW1emWqq86ZyqV4QJiaeY0dIL2sK4IQBfOyFo148@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140617210729.GB31817@laptop.dumpdata.com>

On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 05:07:29PM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 04:51:57PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > On 06/17/2014 04:36 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> > >On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 02:47:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >>Because the qspinlock needs to touch a second cacheline; add a pending
> > >>bit and allow a single in-word spinner before we punt to the second
> > >>cacheline.
> > >Could you add this in the description please:
> > >
> > >And by second cacheline we mean the local 'node'. That is the:
> > >mcs_nodes[0] and mcs_nodes[idx]
> > >
> > >Perhaps it might be better then to split this in the header file
> > >as this is trying to not be a slowpath code - but rather - a
> > >pre-slow-path-lets-try-if-we can do another cmpxchg in case
> > >the unlocker has just unlocked itself.
> > >
> > >So something like:
> > >
> > >diff --git a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> > >index e8a7ae8..29cc9c7 100644
> > >--- a/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> > >+++ b/include/asm-generic/qspinlock.h
> > >@@ -75,11 +75,21 @@ extern void queue_spin_lock_slowpath(struct qspinlock *lock, u32 val);
> > >   */
> > >  static __always_inline void queue_spin_lock(struct qspinlock *lock)
> > >  {
> > >-	u32 val;
> > >+	u32 val, new;
> > >
> > >  	val = atomic_cmpxchg(&lock->val, 0, _Q_LOCKED_VAL);
> > >  	if (likely(val == 0))
> > >  		return;
> > >+
> > >+	/* One more attempt - but if we fail mark it as pending. */
> > >+	if (val == _Q_LOCKED_VAL) {
> > >+		new = Q_LOCKED_VAL |_Q_PENDING_VAL;
> > >+
> > >+		old = atomic_cmpxchg(&lock->val, val, new);
> > >+		if (old == _Q_LOCKED_VAL) /* YEEY! */
> > >+			return;
> > 
> > No, it can leave like that. The unlock path will not clear the pending bit.
> 
> Err, you are right. It needs to go back in the slowpath.

What I should have wrote is:

if (old == 0) /* YEEY */
  return;

As that would the same thing as this patch does on the pending bit - that
is if we can on the second compare and exchange set the pending bit (and the
lock) and the lock has been released - we are good.

And it is a quick path.

> 
> > We are trying to make the fastpath as simple as possible as it may be
> > inlined. The complexity of the queue spinlock is in the slowpath.
> 
> Sure, but then it shouldn't be called slowpath anymore as it is not
> slow. It is a combination of fast path (the potential chance of
> grabbing the lock and setting the pending lock) and the real slow
> path (the queuing). Perhaps it should be called 'queue_spinlock_complex' ?
> 

I forgot to mention - that was the crux of my comments - just change
the slowpath to complex name at that point to better reflect what
it does.

> > 
> > Moreover, an cmpxchg followed immediately followed by another cmpxchg will
> > just increase the level of memory contention when a lock is fairly
> > contended. The chance of second cmpxchg() succeeding will be pretty low.
> 
> Then why even do the pending bit - which is what the slowpath does
> for the first time. And if it grabs it (And sets the pending bit) it
> immediately exits. Why not perculate that piece of code in-to this header.
> 
> And the leave all that slow code (queing, mcs_lock access, etc) in the slowpath.
> 
> > 
> > -Longman
> > 
> > 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-15 12:46 [PATCH 00/11] qspinlock with paravirt support Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:46 ` [PATCH 01/11] qspinlock: A simple generic 4-byte queue spinlock Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-16 20:49   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-16 20:49     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 20:03     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 20:03       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-23 16:12       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-23 16:12         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-23 16:20         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-23 16:20           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-23 15:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-23 16:16       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-23 16:16         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 20:05   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 20:05     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-23 16:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-23 16:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-23 16:45       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-23 16:45         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-15 12:46 ` [PATCH 02/11] qspinlock, x86: Enable x86-64 to use " Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 03/11] qspinlock: Add pending bit Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-17 20:36   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 20:36     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 20:51     ` Waiman Long
2014-06-17 20:51       ` Waiman Long
2014-06-17 21:07       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 21:07         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 21:10         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2014-06-17 21:10           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 22:25           ` Waiman Long
2014-06-17 22:25             ` Waiman Long
2014-06-24  8:24         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-24  8:24           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-18 11:29     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 11:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 13:36       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 13:36         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-23 16:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-23 16:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 04/11] qspinlock: Extract out the exchange of tail code word Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-17 20:55   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 20:55     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 11:37     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 11:37       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 13:50       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 13:50         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 15:46         ` Waiman Long
2014-06-18 15:46           ` Waiman Long
2014-06-18 15:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 15:49             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 16:02           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 16:02             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-24 10:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-24 10:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 05/11] qspinlock: Optimize for smaller NR_CPUS Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-18 11:39   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 11:39     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-07 14:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 14:35       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 15:08       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-07 15:08         ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-07 15:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 15:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 16:10           ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-07-07 16:10             ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 15:57   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 15:57     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-07 14:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 14:33       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 06/11] qspinlock: Optimize pending bit Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-18 11:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 11:42     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 07/11] qspinlock: Use a simple write to grab the lock, if applicable Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-18 16:36   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 16:36     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-07 14:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 14:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 08/11] qspinlock: Revert to test-and-set on hypervisors Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-16 21:57   ` Waiman Long
2014-06-18 16:40   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 16:40     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 09/11] pvqspinlock, x86: Rename paravirt_ticketlocks_enabled Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-18 16:43   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-18 16:43     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 10/11] qspinlock: Paravirt support Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-15 12:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-16 22:08   ` Waiman Long
2014-06-18 12:03     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 12:03       ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 15:26       ` Waiman Long
2014-06-18 15:26         ` Waiman Long
2014-07-07 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 15:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 15:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 15:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-17  0:53   ` Waiman Long
2014-06-17  0:53     ` Waiman Long
2014-06-18 12:04   ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-18 12:04     ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-06-20 13:46   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-20 13:46     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-07 15:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-15 14:23       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-07-15 14:23         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-15 12:47 ` [PATCH 11/11] qspinlock, kvm: Add paravirt support Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-22 16:36   ` Raghavendra K T
2014-06-22 16:36     ` Raghavendra K T
2014-07-07 15:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-07-07 15:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-16 20:52 ` [PATCH 00/11] qspinlock with " Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-16 20:52   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-17 23:23 [PATCH 03/11] qspinlock: Add pending bit Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-17 23:23 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2014-06-24  8:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-06-24  8:46   ` Peter Zijlstra

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