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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux MIPS Mailing List <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/5] x86,entry: Only call user_exit if TIF_NOHZ
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 18:42:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140731164246.GA15974@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140731151630.GA7842@localhost.localdomain>

On 07/31, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 10:23:34AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >
> > At the end of the day, the syscall slowpath code calls a bunch of
> > functions depending on what TIF_XYZ flags are set.  As long as it's
> > structured like "if (TIF_A) do_a(); if (TIF_B) do_b();" or something
> > like that, it's comprehensible.  But once random functions with no
> > explicit flag checks or comments start showing up, it gets confusing.
>
> Yeah that's a point. I don't mind much the TIF_NOHZ test if you like.

And in my opinion

	if (work & TIF_XYZ)
		user_exit();

looks even more confusing. Because, once again, TIF_XYZ is not the
reason to call user_exit().

Not to mention this adds a minor performance penalty.

> > If it's indeed all-or-nothing, I could remove the check and add a
> > comment.  But please keep in mind that, currently, the slow path is
> > *slow*, and my patches only improve the entry case.  So enabling
> > context tracking on every task will hurt.
>
> That's what we do anyway. I haven't found a safe way to enabled context tracking
> without tracking all CPUs.

And if we change this, then the code above becomes racy. The state of
TIF_XYZ can be changed right after the check. OK, it is racy anyway ;)
but still this adds more confusion.

I feel that TIF_XYZ must die. But yes, yes, I know that it is very simple
to say this. And no, so far I do not know how we can improve this all.


But again, again, I won't insist. Just another "can't resist" email,
please ignore.

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-31 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-29  3:38 [PATCH v4 0/5] x86: two-phase syscall tracing and seccomp fastpath Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] x86,x32,audit: Fix x32's AUDIT_ARCH wrt audit Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  3:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] x86,entry: Only call user_exit if TIF_NOHZ Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29 19:32   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-29 19:32     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-30 16:43     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-30 16:43       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-30 17:23       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-30 17:23         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-31 15:16         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-31 16:42           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2014-07-31 16:42             ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 16:49             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-31 16:54               ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 16:54                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 16:58                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 16:58                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-31 17:17                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-31 17:17                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-29  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] x86: Split syscall_trace_enter into two phases Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  3:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29 19:25   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-29 19:25     ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-29  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] x86_64,entry: Treat regs->ax the same in fastpath and slowpath syscalls Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  3:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  3:38 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] x86_64,entry: Use split-phase syscall_trace_enter for 64-bit syscalls Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29  3:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29 19:20 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] x86: two-phase syscall tracing and seccomp fastpath Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-29 19:20   ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-29 20:54   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29 20:54     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29 23:30     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-29 23:30       ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-30 15:32       ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-30 15:32         ` Oleg Nesterov
2014-07-30 16:59       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-30 16:59         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-30 17:25         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-30 17:25           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-31 16:56           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-31 16:56             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-31 17:20             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2014-07-31 17:20               ` Frederic Weisbecker

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