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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arch-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: [RFC PATCH] Documentation/arch: Add Documentation/arch-TODO
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 10:34:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513083441.GA17336@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150512144910.0b49c9a7a13336773449db33-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 May 2015 23:38:43 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > > with the expectation that other architectures will follow along, 
> > > but this doesn't happen.  The arch maintainers simply didn't 
> > > know about it or nobody nags them.  Nothing happens and 
> > > inconsistencies hang around for years.  eg, 
> > > http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1504.2/04993.html
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking we should find a way to do this better.  One way 
> > > might be to maintain a Documentation/arch-todo which identifies 
> > > each item, has a little list of what-to-do instructions and 
> > > perhaps a list of the not-yet-done architectures.  Basically a 
> > > way for everyone to communicate at the arch maintainers.
> > 
> > If only there was a linux-arch list to which arch maintainers 
> > should subscribe... oh wait :-)
> 
> It was I who got linux-arch established, so I'm fairly familiar with 
> it.  (12 years ago, gad).
> 
> I don't think it's been very successful, particularly for this 
> purpose. A whole pile of randomly cc'ed lkml overflow which we're 
> relying on each individual maintainer to sift through and pluck out 
> particular action items then later remember to implement them.  It's 
> disorganized and has too many cracks for things to fall through.

Yes, a mailing list is indeed not a very good TODO list.

We need a persistent post-it, and Documentation/arch-TODO (note the 
capital letters, we might as well shout?) sounds like a good place.

I'd suggest making it tabular, as per the patch below.

If it gets too large we can split it into multiple tables.

I'd like people to have a good look whether I messed up any entry, and 
I'd be happy to add new items as well.

Thanks,

	Ingo

=======================>
From 33a487046b16971564d323079f66fb63aa870f4d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 10:30:11 +0200
Subject: [PATCH] Documentation/arch: Add Documentation/arch-TODO

Add a TODO list for missing/incomplete architecture support
for generic kernel features.

Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
---
 Documentation/arch-TODO | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 47 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/arch-TODO b/Documentation/arch-TODO
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..bfa289639b1c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/arch-TODO
@@ -0,0 +1,47 @@
+
+For generic kernel features that need architecture support, this is
+the feature support matrix, for all upstream Linux architectures:
+
+          ELF-ASLR:----------------------------------------------------------.
+       clockevents:---------------------------------------------------.      |
+modern-timekeeping:--------------------------------------------.      |      |
+              kgdb:-------------------------------------.      |      |      |
+  context-tracking:------------------------------.      |      |      |      |
+    seccomp-filter:-----------------------.      |      |      |      |      |
+       jump-labels:----------------.      |      |      |      |      |      |
+    stackprotector:---------.      |      |      |      |      |      |      |
+           lockdep:--.      |      |      |      |      |      |      |      |
+                     |      |      |      |      |      |      |      |      |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+  alpha           | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  arc             |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  arm             |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |
+  arm64           |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |
+  avr32           |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  blackfin        |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  | TODO |  ok  | TODO |
+  c6x             | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  cris            | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  | TODO |
+  frv             | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  | TODO | TODO |
+  hexagon         |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  ia64            | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  | TODO | TODO |
+  m32r            | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |
+  m68k            | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  | TODO |
+  metag           |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  microblaze      |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  mips            |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |
+  mn10300         | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  nios2           | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  openrisc        | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  parisc          | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  | TODO | TODO |
+  powerpc         |  ok  | TODO |  ok  | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |
+  s390            |  ok  | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |
+  score           |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  sh              |  ok  |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  sparc           |  ok  | TODO |  ok  | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  tile            |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  um              |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  unicore32       |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+  x86             |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |  ok  |
+  xtensa          |  ok  | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO | TODO |  ok  |  ok  | TODO |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Subject: [RFC PATCH] Documentation/arch: Add Documentation/arch-TODO
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 10:34:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513083441.GA17336@gmail.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20150513083441.SYT8rWrqVxYOO1msaiFgROibnJXq5bUbaRQ0YeWTTkc@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150512144910.0b49c9a7a13336773449db33@linux-foundation.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 May 2015 23:38:43 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > > with the expectation that other architectures will follow along, 
> > > but this doesn't happen.  The arch maintainers simply didn't 
> > > know about it or nobody nags them.  Nothing happens and 
> > > inconsistencies hang around for years.  eg, 
> > > http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1504.2/04993.html
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking we should find a way to do this better.  One way 
> > > might be to maintain a Documentation/arch-todo which identifies 
> > > each item, has a little list of what-to-do instructions and 
> > > perhaps a list of the not-yet-done architectures.  Basically a 
> > > way for everyone to communicate at the arch maintainers.
> > 
> > If only there was a linux-arch list to which arch maintainers 
> > should subscribe... oh wait :-)
> 
> It was I who got linux-arch established, so I'm fairly familiar with 
> it.  (12 years ago, gad).
> 
> I don't think it's been very successful, particularly for this 
> purpose. A whole pile of randomly cc'ed lkml overflow which we're 
> relying on each individual maintainer to sift through and pluck out 
> particular action items then later remember to implement them.  It's 
> disorganized and has too many cracks for things to fall through.

Yes, a mailing list is indeed not a very good TODO list.

We need a persistent post-it, and Documentation/arch-TODO (note the 
capital letters, we might as well shout?) sounds like a good place.

I'd suggest making it tabular, as per the patch below.

If it gets too large we can split it into multiple tables.

I'd like people to have a good look whether I messed up any entry, and 
I'd be happy to add new items as well.

Thanks,

	Ingo

=======================>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-13  8:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150511192918.GA11361@jtriplet-mobl1>
     [not found] ` <20150512142250.dcb053da81855ae1b5861173@linux-foundation.org>
2015-05-12 21:38   ` [PATCHv2 1/2] clone: Support passing tls argument via C rather than pt_regs magic Peter Zijlstra
2015-05-12 21:38     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20150512213843.GV21418-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-12 21:49       ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-12 21:49         ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]         ` <20150512144910.0b49c9a7a13336773449db33-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13  8:34           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-05-13  8:34             ` [RFC PATCH] Documentation/arch: Add Documentation/arch-TODO Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13  8:56             ` [RFC PATCH v2] " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13  8:56               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <20150513085636.GA11030-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13  9:24                 ` [RFC PATCH v3] " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13  9:24                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13  9:46                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13  9:46                     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20150513094622.GC11030-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13  9:47                       ` [RFC PATCH v5] " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13  9:47                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13 13:18                         ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                           ` <20150513131835.GJ1517-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 13:48                             ` [RFC PATCH v6] Documentation/arch: Add Documentation/arch-features.txt Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13 13:48                               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-13 16:27                               ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-13 16:53                                 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-13 16:53                                   ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-14 10:16                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 10:16                                     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                     ` <20150514101615.GB27550-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 10:31                                       ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-14 10:31                                         ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-13 22:05                                 ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-13 22:05                                   ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                                   ` <20150513150523.ddd65d7cd51f820b78f0c8e3-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 10:02                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 10:02                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 10:15                                     ` [PATCH] Documentation/arch: Add kernel feature descriptions and arch support status under Documentation/features/ Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 10:15                                       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                       ` <20150514101518.GA27550-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 10:35                                         ` [PATCH v2] " Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 10:35                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14 19:38                                           ` Andrew Morton
2015-05-14 19:59                                             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                               ` <20150514195925.GA27570-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 22:33                                                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2015-05-14 22:33                                                   ` Stephen Rothwell
     [not found]                                                   ` <20150515083334.535ad43e-3FnU+UHB4dNDw9hX6IcOSA@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-15  7:38                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15  7:38                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                       ` <20150515073805.GA14993-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-15  7:51                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15  7:51                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15  9:37                                               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                             ` <20150514123835.1bf436bc35d711f8dbf9bc0f-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14 20:34                                               ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-14 20:34                                                 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-14 22:57                                               ` Michael Ellerman
2015-05-14 22:57                                                 ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]                                                 ` <1431644248.2981.1.camel-Gsx/Oe8HsFggBc27wqDAHg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-15  7:49                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-15  7:49                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-18  1:37                                                     ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]                                                       ` <1431913033.13218.2.camel-Gsx/Oe8HsFggBc27wqDAHg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-18  8:54                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-18  8:54                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                           ` <20150518085423.GA24944-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-19  2:02                                                             ` Michael Ellerman
2015-05-19  2:02                                                               ` Michael Ellerman
     [not found]                                           ` <20150514103544.GA7027-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-22 15:49                                             ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-05-22 15:49                                               ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                                               ` <20150522094931.78a43421-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-23  8:07                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-23  8:07                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-05-24 18:44                                                   ` Jonathan Corbet
     [not found]                                                     ` <20150524124447.0c395540-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-03 11:03                                                       ` [GIT PULL] Documentation/features: Add kernel feature descriptions and arch support status files " Ingo Molnar
2015-06-03 11:03                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                                                         ` <20150603110355.GA12079-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 23:08                                                           ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-06-08 23:08                                                             ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-05-14  7:08                                 ` [RFC PATCH v6] Documentation/arch: Add Documentation/arch-features.txt Ingo Molnar
2015-05-14  3:55                               ` Paul Mackerras
2015-05-14  3:55                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2015-05-14  7:02                                 ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                         ` <20150513094756.GD11030-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-13 14:09                           ` [RFC PATCH v5] Documentation/arch: Add Documentation/arch-TODO Michele Curti
2015-05-13 14:09                             ` Michele Curti
2015-05-13 14:42                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]                               ` <CAMuHMdXV68nie93Rb=Z+vYtn2aNex=s5E4+Z=QGojF+8EbPbKA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-14  7:21                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-14  7:21                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-05-14  7:21                               ` H. Peter Anvin

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