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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] barriers: introduce smp_mb__release_acquire and update documentation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 09:29:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151009072931.GT3816@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151008214439.GE3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 02:44:39PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

> > > > I am with Peter -- we do need the benchmark results for PPC.
> > > 
> > > Urgh, sorry guys. I have been slowly doing some benchmarks, but time is not
> > > plentiful at the moment.
> > > 
> > > If we do a straight lwsync -> sync conversion for unlock it looks like that
> > > will cost us ~4.2% on Anton's standard context switch benchmark.
> > 
> > And that does not seem to agree with Paul's smp_mb__after_unlock_lock()
> > usage and would not be sufficient for the same (as of yet unexplained)
> > reason.
> > 
> > Why does it matter which of the LOCK or UNLOCK gets promoted to full
> > barrier on PPC in order to become RCsc?
> 
> You could do either.  However, as I understand it, there is hardware for
> which bc;isync is faster than lwsync.  For such hardware, it is cheaper
> to upgrade the unlock from lwsync to sync than to upgrade the lock from
> bc;isync to sync.  If I recall correctly, the kernel rewrites itself at
> boot to select whichever of lwsync or bc;isync is better for the hardware
> at hand.

Fair enough. I'll go wake up and think about the other issue ;-)

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-09  7:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-07 10:59 [PATCH v2] barriers: introduce smp_mb__release_acquire and update documentation Will Deacon
2015-10-07 11:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 13:23   ` Will Deacon
2015-10-07 13:23     ` Will Deacon
2015-10-07 14:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 15:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-08  3:50       ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-08  3:50         ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-08 11:16         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-08 12:59           ` Will Deacon
2015-10-08 22:17             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  9:51               ` Will Deacon
2015-10-09  9:51                 ` Will Deacon
2015-10-09 11:25                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09 11:25                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09 17:44                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09 17:44                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09 17:43                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09 18:33                   ` Will Deacon
2015-10-12 23:30                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-20 14:20                       ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-08 21:44           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-09  7:29             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-10-09  8:31             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09  9:40               ` Will Deacon
2015-10-09  9:40                 ` Will Deacon
2015-10-09 11:02                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09 12:41                   ` Will Deacon
2015-10-09 11:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09 12:51                   ` Will Deacon
2015-10-09 13:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09 11:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-09 17:21                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-19  1:17                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-19  1:17                   ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-19 10:23                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-19 10:23                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-20  7:35                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-20  7:35                       ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-20 23:34                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21  8:24                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 19:29                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21 19:36                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 19:36                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 19:56                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21 16:04                     ` David Laight
2015-10-21 16:04                       ` David Laight
2015-10-21 19:34                       ` Paul E. McKenney

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