From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, x86@kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>, Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists. Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 17/32] arm: define __smp_xxx Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 22:12:47 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20160104220938-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20160104133658.GY6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 02:36:58PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:12:44AM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 11:24:38AM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > > > My only concern is that it gives people an additional handle onto a > > > "new" set of barriers - just because they're prefixed with __* > > > unfortunately doesn't stop anyone from using it (been there with > > > other arch stuff before.) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should consider making the smp memory barriers > > > inline functions, so these __smp_xxx() variants can be undef'd > > > afterwards, thereby preventing drivers getting their hands on these > > > new macros? > > > > That'd be tricky to do cleanly since asm-generic depends on > > ifndef to add generic variants where needed. > > > > But it would be possible to add a checkpatch test for this. > > Wasn't the whole purpose of these things for 'drivers' (namely > virtio/xen hypervisor interaction) to use these? My take out from discussion with you was that virtualization is probably the only valid use-case. So at David Miller's suggestion there's a patch later in the series that adds virt_xxxx wrappers and these are then used by virtio xen and later maybe others. > And I suppose most of virtio would actually be modules, so you cannot do > what I did with preempt_enable_no_resched() either. > > But yes, it would be good to limit the use of these things. Right so the trick is checkpatch warns about use of __smp_xxx and hopefully people are not crazy enough to use virt_xxx variants for non-virtual drivers. -- MST
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, x86@kernel.org, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, adi-buildroot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>, Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 17/32] arm: define __smp_xxx Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 22:12:47 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20160104220938-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw) Message-ID: <20160104201247.oYCQo8vY1V_JYfqI10QcgqK1RaExKmCdiAKdx-QEzQg@z> (raw) In-Reply-To: <20160104133658.GY6344@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 02:36:58PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:12:44AM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 02, 2016 at 11:24:38AM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > > > My only concern is that it gives people an additional handle onto a > > > "new" set of barriers - just because they're prefixed with __* > > > unfortunately doesn't stop anyone from using it (been there with > > > other arch stuff before.) > > > > > > I wonder whether we should consider making the smp memory barriers > > > inline functions, so these __smp_xxx() variants can be undef'd > > > afterwards, thereby preventing drivers getting their hands on these > > > new macros? > > > > That'd be tricky to do cleanly since asm-generic depends on > > ifndef to add generic variants where needed. > > > > But it would be possible to add a checkpatch test for this. > > Wasn't the whole purpose of these things for 'drivers' (namely > virtio/xen hypervisor interaction) to use these? My take out from discussion with you was that virtualization is probably the only valid use-case. So at David Miller's suggestion there's a patch later in the series that adds virt_xxxx wrappers and these are then used by virtio xen and later maybe others. > And I suppose most of virtio would actually be modules, so you cannot do > what I did with preempt_enable_no_resched() either. > > But yes, it would be good to limit the use of these things. Right so the trick is checkpatch warns about use of __smp_xxx and hopefully people are not crazy enough to use virt_xxx variants for non-virtual drivers. -- MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-04 20:12 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 167+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2015-12-31 19:05 [PATCH v2 00/34] arch: barrier cleanup + barriers for virt Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 01/32] lcoking/barriers, arch: Use smp barriers in smp_store_release() Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/32] asm-generic: guard smp_store_release/load_acquire Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 03/32] ia64: rename nop->iosapic_nop Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 04/32] ia64: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 05/32] powerpc: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 06/32] s390: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:20 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 15:03 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-04 15:03 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-04 20:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 20:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 8:03 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-05 8:03 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-04 20:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 20:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 07/32] sparc: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:43 ` David Miller 2015-12-31 19:43 ` David Miller 2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 08/32] arm: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-02 11:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-01-02 11:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2015-12-31 19:06 ` [PATCH v2 09/32] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/32] mips: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [not found] ` <1451572003-2440-12-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-04 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:26 ` Peter Zijlstra 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/32] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 15/32] powerpc: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 1:36 ` Boqun Feng 2016-01-05 1:36 ` Boqun Feng [not found] ` <20160105013648.GA1256-nNqVUaWX1rAq6Sbylg4iGasjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-05 8:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 8:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 9:53 ` Boqun Feng 2016-01-05 9:53 ` Boqun Feng [not found] ` <20160105095341.GA5321-nNqVUaWX1rAq6Sbylg4iGasjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-05 16:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 16:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-06 1:51 ` Boqun Feng 2016-01-06 1:51 ` Boqun Feng [not found] ` <20160106015152.GA14605-nNqVUaWX1rAq6Sbylg4iGasjOiXwFzmk@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-06 20:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-06 20:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-07 0:43 ` Boqun Feng 2016-01-07 0:43 ` Boqun Feng 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 16/32] arm64: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 17/32] arm: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-02 11:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-01-02 11:24 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-01-03 9:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-03 9:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:36 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:54 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-01-04 13:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux 2016-01-05 14:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 14:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 20:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 20:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 20:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message] 2016-01-04 20:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 18/32] blackfin: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 19/32] ia64: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 21/32] mips: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 22/32] s390: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:45 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 20:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 20:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 8:13 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-05 8:13 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-05 9:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 9:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 12:08 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-05 12:08 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-05 13:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 13:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 14:21 ` Martin Schwidefsky 2016-01-05 14:21 ` Martin Schwidefsky [not found] ` <20160105105335-mutt-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-05 15:39 ` Christian Borntraeger 2016-01-05 15:39 ` Christian Borntraeger 2016-01-05 16:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-05 16:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 23/32] sh: define __smp_xxx, fix smp_store_mb for !SMP Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 24/32] sparc: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:44 ` David Miller 2015-12-31 19:44 ` David Miller 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 25/32] tile: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 26/32] xtensa: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 28/32] asm-generic: implement virt_xxx memory barriers Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 29/32] Revert "virtio_ring: Update weak barriers to use dma_wmb/rmb" Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 30/32] virtio_ring: update weak barriers to use __smp_XXX Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-01 9:39 ` [PATCH v2 30/32] virtio_ring: update weak barriers to use __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-01 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-01 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 32/32] virtio_ring: use virt_store_mb Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-01 17:23 ` Sergei Shtylyov 2016-01-01 17:23 ` Sergei Shtylyov [not found] ` <5686B622.6070600-M4DtvfQ/ZS1MRgGoP+s0PdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-03 9:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-03 9:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [not found] ` <1451572003-2440-1-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/32] metag: reuse asm-generic/barrier.h Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 23:24 ` James Hogan 2016-01-04 23:24 ` James Hogan 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/32] x86/um: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [not found] ` <1451572003-2440-13-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-05 23:12 ` Richard Weinberger 2016-01-05 23:12 ` Richard Weinberger 2015-12-31 19:07 ` [PATCH v2 14/32] asm-generic: add __smp_xxx wrappers Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` [PATCH v2 20/32] metag: define __smp_xxx Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 13:41 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 15:25 ` James Hogan 2016-01-04 15:25 ` James Hogan 2016-01-04 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 16:04 ` James Hogan 2016-01-04 16:04 ` James Hogan 2016-01-05 0:09 ` James Hogan 2016-01-05 0:09 ` James Hogan [not found] ` <20160105000929.GM17861-4bYivNCBEGTR3KXKvIWQxtm+Uo4AYnCiHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-11 11:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-11 11:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 27/32] x86: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` [PATCH v2 31/32] sh: support a 2-byte smp_store_mb Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 14:05 ` Peter Zijlstra 2015-12-31 19:10 ` [PATCH v2 33/34] xenbus: use virt_xxx barriers Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 11:32 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel 2016-01-04 11:32 ` David Vrabel 2016-01-04 12:03 ` Stefano Stabellini 2016-01-04 12:03 ` Stefano Stabellini [not found] ` <1451572003-2440-34-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-04 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra 2016-01-04 14:09 ` Peter Zijlstra 2015-12-31 19:10 ` [PATCH v2 34/34] xen/io: " Michael S. Tsirkin 2015-12-31 19:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2016-01-04 11:32 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel 2016-01-04 11:32 ` David Vrabel [not found] ` <1451572003-2440-35-git-send-email-mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2016-01-04 12:05 ` Stefano Stabellini 2016-01-04 12:05 ` Stefano Stabellini
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