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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>, Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/13] fork: Add generic vmalloced stack support
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:46:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160621084649.GC30848@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrV3M0a4Xyro21Rz8gpkq1b8PnFUZm_NPnBr0BBO8HS6ug@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon 20-06-16 09:13:55, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 6:36 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri 17-06-16 13:00:42, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >> If CONFIG_VMAP_STACK is selected, kernel stacks are allocated with
> >> vmalloc_node.
> >
> > I like this! It also reduces demand for higher order (order-2) pages
> > considerably which is a great plus on its own. I would be little bit
> > worried about the performance because vmalloc wasn't the fastest one
> > AFAIR. Have you tried to measure that?
> 
> It seems to add about 1.5µs to pthread_create+join on my laptop.  (On
> an unmodified, stripped-down kernel, it took about 7µs before.  On a
> Fedora system, the baseline is much worse.)  I think that most of the
> overhead is because vmalloc allocates one page at a time, which means
> that it won't use a higher order page even if one is sitting on a
> freelist.

I guess a less artificial test case which would would generate a lot of
tasks and some memory pressure would be more representative (e.g.
kernbench). The thing is that even order-2 pages might get quite
expensive when the memory is fragmented.

> I can imagine better integration with the page allocator in which
> higher order pages are used if readily available.  Similarly, vfree
> could free pages that happen to be aligned and consecutive as a unit
> to avoid the overhead of merging them back together one at a time.
> 
> But I'm not planning on doing any of this myself any time soon.  I
> just want to get the code working and merged.

I agree, there is a room for improvement but no necessarily as a part of
this series.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-21  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-17 20:00 [PATCH v2 00/13] Virtually mapped stacks with guard pages (x86, core) Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] x86/mm/hotplug: Don't remove PGD entries in remove_pagetable() Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] x86/cpa: In populate_pgd, don't set the pgd entry until it's populated Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] x86/cpa: Warn if kernel_unmap_pages_in_pgd is used inappropriately Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-18 10:29     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-18 10:29       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-18 10:37       ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-18 10:37         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] mm: Track NR_KERNEL_STACK in KiB instead of number of stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 13:16   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 13:16     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] mm: Move memcg stack accounting to account_kernel_stack Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:55   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-17 22:18     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 13:02   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 13:02     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 16:05     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 16:05       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] fork: Add generic vmalloced stack support Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:57   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-17 20:57     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-17 22:18     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 22:18       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 13:36   ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 13:36     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-20 16:13     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-20 16:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21  8:46       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-06-21 17:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-21 17:01           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] x86/die: Don't try to recover from an OOPS on a non-default stack Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] x86/dumpstack: When OOPSing, rewind the stack before do_exit Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] x86/dumpstack: When dumping stack bytes due to OOPS, start with regs->sp Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] x86/dumpstack: Try harder to get a call trace on stack overflow Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] x86/dumpstack/64: Handle faults when printing the "Stack:" part of an OOPS Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] x86/mm/64: Enable vmapped stacks Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] x86/mm: Improve stack-overflow #PF handling Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-17 20:00   ` Andy Lutomirski

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