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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: "Thomas Garnier" <thgarnie@google.com>,
	"Brian Gerst" <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	"Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>, "Christoph Lameter" <cl@linux.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Paul.Gortmaker@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 06/22] kvm: Adapt assembly for PIE support
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:47:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201707192348.v6JNm8Rg003916@mail.zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu_0o+PrMAWRSP5Y4R7QO87+zAYf=B=VDF1icqJvWL0PoA@mail.gmail.com>

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From: hpa@zytor.com
Message-ID: <83BA7600-BC8D-4C91-812C-DD2A0BF4474B@zytor.com>

On July 19, 2017 3:58:07 PM PDT, Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org> wrote:
>On 19 July 2017 at 23:27, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>> On 07/19/17 08:40, Thomas Garnier wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This doesn't look right.  It's accessing a per-cpu variable.  The
>>>> per-cpu section is an absolute, zero-based section and not subject
>to
>>>> relocation.
>>>
>>> PIE does not respect the zero-based section, it tries to have
>>> everything relative. Patch 16/22 also adapt per-cpu to work with PIE
>>> (while keeping the zero absolute design by default).
>>>
>>
>> This is silly.  The right thing is for PIE is to be explicitly
>absolute,
>> without (%rip).  The use of (%rip) memory references for percpu is
>just
>> an optimization.
>>
>
>Sadly, there is an issue in binutils that may prevent us from doing
>this as cleanly as we would want.
>
>For historical reasons, bfd.ld emits special symbols like
>__GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE__ as absolute symbols with a section index of
>SHN_ABS, even though it is quite obvious that they are relative like
>any other symbol that points into the image. Unfortunately, this means
>that binutils needs to emit R_X86_64_RELATIVE relocations even for
>SHN_ABS symbols, which means we lose the ability to use both absolute
>and relocatable symbols in the same PIE image (unless the reloc tool
>can filter them out)
>
>More info here:
>https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19818

The reloc tool already has the ability to filter symbols.
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-20  0:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-18 22:33 x86: PIE support and option to extend KASLR randomization Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 01/22] x86/crypto: Adapt assembly for PIE support Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 02/22] x86: Use symbol name on bug table " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 03/22] x86: Use symbol name in jump " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 04/22] x86: Add macro to get symbol address " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 05/22] xen: Adapt assembly " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 06/22] kvm: " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19  2:49   ` Brian Gerst
2017-07-19 15:40     ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 22:27       ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-19 22:44         ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 22:58         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-07-19 23:47           ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2017-07-19 23:47           ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 07/22] x86: relocate_kernel - " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 22:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-19 23:23     ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 08/22] x86/entry/64: " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 09/22] x86: pm-trace - " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 10/22] x86/CPU: " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 11/22] x86/acpi: " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 12/22] x86/boot/64: " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 13/22] x86/power/64: " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 18:41   ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 14/22] x86/paravirt: " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 15/22] x86/boot/64: Use _text in a global " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 16/22] x86/percpu: Adapt percpu " Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19  3:08   ` Brian Gerst
2017-07-19 18:26     ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 23:33       ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-20  2:21         ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-20  3:03           ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-20 14:26         ` Thomas Garnier
2017-08-02 16:42           ` Thomas Garnier
2017-08-02 16:56             ` Kees Cook
2017-08-02 18:05               ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 17/22] compiler: Option to default to hidden symbols Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 18/22] x86/relocs: Handle DYN relocations for PIE support Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 19/22] x86/pie: Add option to build the kernel as PIE for x86_64 Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 20/22] x86/relocs: Add option to generate 64-bit relocations Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 22:33   ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-19 22:47     ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 23:08       ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-19 23:25         ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 23:45           ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-19 23:45           ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 21/22] x86/module: Add support for mcmodel large and PLTs Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19  1:35   ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-07-19  3:59     ` Brian Gerst
2017-07-19 15:58       ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 17:34         ` Brian Gerst
2017-07-24 16:32           ` Thomas Garnier
2017-07-18 22:33 ` [RFC 22/22] x86/kaslr: Add option to extend KASLR range from 1GB to 3GB Thomas Garnier
2017-07-19 12:10   ` Baoquan He
2017-07-19 13:49     ` Baoquan He
2017-07-19 14:08 ` x86: PIE support and option to extend KASLR randomization Christopher Lameter
2017-07-19 19:21   ` Kees Cook

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